What is it with the “mommy and daddy are buying this Z for me..” stuff?
#21
I am 19, and I pay for my car. My first car was a 1978 Saab 99 GL, and trust me it wasn't pretty. It smelt like gasoline, it barely ran when it did, topped out at 70mph, and wouldn't normally run more than 3 weeks until another problem occured. I say don't hate on the kid for his parents buying him a car. Good for him. I wish I didn't have to pay for my car. I am happy for him. Why do you care anyways? Not to be an a-hole, but are you jealious or something? I couldn't care less if his parents bought it for him. I have been working at my parents place for since I was 10, and have had several jobs other than that since I was 16. Let me tell you, work sucks. Let the kid enjoy his life while he is young. He has plenty of time to work.
Last edited by chachi999999999; 02-23-2005 at 09:29 AM.
#22
if that was directed at me, then i am not jealous at all. i think the fact that my parents made me work for what i want was much better than giving it me.... and i chose to buy a house instead of a new car. again personal choices, nothing for me to be jealous about.
#23
There's a heavy burden placed on a young person to try to act mature enough to recognize some people will be jealous of them. Not just with a Z at a young age but with anything in life. It's your responsibility to become more humble as you become more successful in life because no one likes a stuck up spoiled brat.
The most you can do to show your maturity would be to act more like "yeah I don't know, this is the situation I'm in. My parents want to buy me a nice car and I like the Z so that's what they're doing"
instead of attacking other older people saying 'well maybe you don't deserve one. I'm better than you and my parents make more money than you because our family is better than yours'
The most you can do to show your maturity would be to act more like "yeah I don't know, this is the situation I'm in. My parents want to buy me a nice car and I like the Z so that's what they're doing"
instead of attacking other older people saying 'well maybe you don't deserve one. I'm better than you and my parents make more money than you because our family is better than yours'
#24
Originally posted by SoBe
this is by far the dumbest post ever...
Sorry if your parents didnt make enough money to buy you a car like this and or just felt like you didnt deserve a nice car, because you probably did not.
Please dont make stupid comments.
this is by far the dumbest post ever...
Sorry if your parents didnt make enough money to buy you a car like this and or just felt like you didnt deserve a nice car, because you probably did not.
Please dont make stupid comments.
Without shouting rhetoric back and forth, suffice it to say that the intent of my first post was to try and help those of you fortunate enough to have a family with the means to offer you a great car, and pay for your college, to understand just how lucky you are, and to appreciate what you have, and that you are blessed.
Sorry if I came off sounding pedantic or condescending. Bottom line is, a very small percentage of the population is wealthy enough to offer their children the luxury of a new Z for their 16th birthday, and that for most people, their Z is there second (if not their first) most expensive/valuable asset they own, period.
Try telling some guy who sacraficed a certain lifestyle in order to afford his Z that he doesnt deserve a nice car because he is poor.
ffs appreciate what you got, and recognize it for what it is.
~AJ
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#25
Originally posted by mr2fasterthanyo
if that was directed at me, then i am not jealous at all. i think the fact that my parents made me work for what i want was much better than giving it me.... and i chose to buy a house instead of a new car. again personal choices, nothing for me to be jealous about.
if that was directed at me, then i am not jealous at all. i think the fact that my parents made me work for what i want was much better than giving it me.... and i chose to buy a house instead of a new car. again personal choices, nothing for me to be jealous about.
#26
Originally posted by chachi999999999
Plus, you know how much tail a young guy can get driving a Z?
Plus, you know how much tail a young guy can get driving a Z?
depends on what type of girl he's going for...
some girls will make up their mind that a young guy driving a Z is stuck up or really into money - be it true or not and not be interested
#27
I think what gets most people is working hard to buy a Z on their own then seeing a kid get one handed to them thats the same or better.
Sometimes it gets me that my friends who are still in college are driving more expensive cars than I am.
But thats life. Its not always fair. I am not going to walk around with a chip on my shoulder b/c my parents would only buy me a used 4 door when I was 18 (had to share a car when i was 16 and 17). There will always be rich kids driving nicer cars than yours even when your driving $50k+ cars.
People who hate this need to get over it. And people who have the cars given to them need to stop saying our parents weren't as successful as yours. I would be willing to bet most people on this forum's parents could afford to given them a Z but chose not to.
Sometimes it gets me that my friends who are still in college are driving more expensive cars than I am.
But thats life. Its not always fair. I am not going to walk around with a chip on my shoulder b/c my parents would only buy me a used 4 door when I was 18 (had to share a car when i was 16 and 17). There will always be rich kids driving nicer cars than yours even when your driving $50k+ cars.
People who hate this need to get over it. And people who have the cars given to them need to stop saying our parents weren't as successful as yours. I would be willing to bet most people on this forum's parents could afford to given them a Z but chose not to.
#28
It isn't about what your parents can or could afford. Not really. My parents could have afforded to buy me just about anything (well, maybe not a Ferrari). In fact my dad literally had (and has) so many cars, he stores them in a warehouse (he collects vintage Chevys and Fords). This is a man who carries an AmEx Centurion card (and last time I checked, they weren't giving those out ***** nilly; I know AmEx hasn't offered me one, and I make a great living).
There is a lesson to be learned and values to be taught by not buying your children something just because you can afford it. My parents' actions helped me appreciate what things cost and how rewarding it is to actually earn something. Heck, I would have been overjoyed if they'd bought me a 300Z back then, but I don't know if I would have appreciated the financial outlay. I even thought of myself as a great driver, but I might well be dead if I had been tooling around in a Z. Or maybe not.
Anyway, different people have different value systems. It is out of line with my value system to buy a child a 350Z, a BMW or any car like that. I'll pay for a trip to Europe so they can explore other countries and cultures. I'll pay for college, so they can get a great education and go on to great careers. But I would only buy basic, reliable, safe transportation. They can buy their own Z's and bring it by so dad can be proud of them.
There is a lesson to be learned and values to be taught by not buying your children something just because you can afford it. My parents' actions helped me appreciate what things cost and how rewarding it is to actually earn something. Heck, I would have been overjoyed if they'd bought me a 300Z back then, but I don't know if I would have appreciated the financial outlay. I even thought of myself as a great driver, but I might well be dead if I had been tooling around in a Z. Or maybe not.
Anyway, different people have different value systems. It is out of line with my value system to buy a child a 350Z, a BMW or any car like that. I'll pay for a trip to Europe so they can explore other countries and cultures. I'll pay for college, so they can get a great education and go on to great careers. But I would only buy basic, reliable, safe transportation. They can buy their own Z's and bring it by so dad can be proud of them.
#29
Originally posted by sentry65
depends on what type of girl he's going for...
some girls will make up their mind that a young guy driving a Z is stuck up or really into money - be it true or not and not be interested
depends on what type of girl he's going for...
some girls will make up their mind that a young guy driving a Z is stuck up or really into money - be it true or not and not be interested
#30
Originally posted by hypeiv
I think what gets most people is working hard to buy a Z on their own then seeing a kid get one handed to them thats the same or better.
Sometimes it gets me that my friends who are still in college are driving more expensive cars than I am.
But thats life. Its not always fair. I am not going to walk around with a chip on my shoulder b/c my parents would only buy me a used 4 door when I was 18 (had to share a car when i was 16 and 17). There will always be rich kids driving nicer cars than yours even when your driving $50k+ cars.
People who hate this need to get over it. And people who have the cars given to them need to stop saying our parents weren't as successful as yours. I would be willing to bet most people on this forum's parents could afford to given them a Z but chose not to.
I think what gets most people is working hard to buy a Z on their own then seeing a kid get one handed to them thats the same or better.
Sometimes it gets me that my friends who are still in college are driving more expensive cars than I am.
But thats life. Its not always fair. I am not going to walk around with a chip on my shoulder b/c my parents would only buy me a used 4 door when I was 18 (had to share a car when i was 16 and 17). There will always be rich kids driving nicer cars than yours even when your driving $50k+ cars.
People who hate this need to get over it. And people who have the cars given to them need to stop saying our parents weren't as successful as yours. I would be willing to bet most people on this forum's parents could afford to given them a Z but chose not to.
#31
Originally posted by boldenmd
It isn't about what your parents can or could afford. Not really. My parents could have afforded to buy me just about anything (well, maybe not a Ferrari)..... They can buy their own Z's and bring it by so dad can be proud of them.
It isn't about what your parents can or could afford. Not really. My parents could have afforded to buy me just about anything (well, maybe not a Ferrari)..... They can buy their own Z's and bring it by so dad can be proud of them.
#32
I don't really generalize young kids with nice cars right off the bat. I see it as there are two kinds. There are the ones that actually realize how lucky they are, appeciate the things that they are given, still work hard at what they do and will be successful with the values their parents instilled in them. The others are the spoiled little brats and just expect the hand outs. They have no real backup plan to their life and they pray that their parents outlive them so that they won't have to do anything the rest of their lives. The second ones are the ones that I can't STAND. They brag about what their mommies and daddies bought them and they whine when they don't buy them or do for them what they want. "If I don't get that new mercedes or BMW I won't talk to my parents ever again, I deserve it." kinda crap. The majority tend to be the second group. The first group I consider lucky...the second group I consider spoiled.
#33
Originally posted by foochdawg
I don't really generalize young kids with nice cars right off the bat. I see it as there are two kinds...the second group I consider spoiled.
I don't really generalize young kids with nice cars right off the bat. I see it as there are two kinds...the second group I consider spoiled.
#34
No I mean if I know them.
Like say if I see some 17 year old cruising around in a Z I am not going to give it a second thought.
But if there is a kid that goes to the same school as me or works where I work. I am going to treat him just like any other but if he starts ragging on what I drive because his parents gave him a better car or something assinine like that, yeah, it gets under my skin. I am just saying not all are like that and I only ever really care if I actually interact with the person. Or say I am sitting at a traffic light back when I had my old rust bucket taurus. And some kid pulls up in a BMW and laughs at my car or makes some dumb *** comment about it because for his 16th birthday he got an M3 with a bow.
Like say if I see some 17 year old cruising around in a Z I am not going to give it a second thought.
But if there is a kid that goes to the same school as me or works where I work. I am going to treat him just like any other but if he starts ragging on what I drive because his parents gave him a better car or something assinine like that, yeah, it gets under my skin. I am just saying not all are like that and I only ever really care if I actually interact with the person. Or say I am sitting at a traffic light back when I had my old rust bucket taurus. And some kid pulls up in a BMW and laughs at my car or makes some dumb *** comment about it because for his 16th birthday he got an M3 with a bow.
#35
Originally posted by chachi999999999
My point is this. Why does anyone care if a kid is getting a Z that his parents bought for him? His or her parents are taking a different route from yours or mine, and that is there choice. It isn't up to us to say the way they are teaching their children are wrong. They have the right to raise their children the way they want. And if anyone really cars about that kid getting their Z bought for them, that is just jealiously imo.
My point is this. Why does anyone care if a kid is getting a Z that his parents bought for him? His or her parents are taking a different route from yours or mine, and that is there choice. It isn't up to us to say the way they are teaching their children are wrong. They have the right to raise their children the way they want. And if anyone really cars about that kid getting their Z bought for them, that is just jealiously imo.
No, this isn't jealousy. I'd probably be jealous if my neigbor rolled up in a Bentley Continental GT (and I'd tell him that in good fun), but jealousy just for it's own sake would be a waste of my time. There's a larger societal argument in play here that can't be dismissed by trotting out the "jealousy" card. That ignores the fact that people's actions ripple throughout our communities with repercussions.
#36
Originally posted by chachi999999999
I am sorry, but I don't know about you, but when I was 16 I wasn't looking for a wife. I am 19, and I am still not looking for a wife. I am looking for some tail. I am pretty damn sure that a kid of 16 or whatever is not looking for a wife either. As for the kind of girl she is, who cares. I just want to hit it. I'm not marrying her. As for the lady thinking badly of you because you drive a Z, is that the kind of girl you want to marry? A girl that makes judgements on you before she meets you.
I am sorry, but I don't know about you, but when I was 16 I wasn't looking for a wife. I am 19, and I am still not looking for a wife. I am looking for some tail. I am pretty damn sure that a kid of 16 or whatever is not looking for a wife either. As for the kind of girl she is, who cares. I just want to hit it. I'm not marrying her. As for the lady thinking badly of you because you drive a Z, is that the kind of girl you want to marry? A girl that makes judgements on you before she meets you.
From a parenting standpoint, do you want your son to be out sleeping with a lot of people? Especially if they're underage, you'll have to answer for your son's actions and pay whatever if a girl gets pregnant.
as far as a girl making a judgment call about you driving a nice car, well it's hard to explain and I'm not sure I said it very well. There's a difference between a guy who buys a Z to pick up girls and a guy who buys a Z because he likes the car and wants to track it etc.
If the guy plays the car off and is always showing it off and making sure people know it's his and keeps it spotless even in the rain - that sends a different message than a guy who beats the hell out of it and doesn't try to make a big deal out of it. So in a way, I guess in both scenerios the guy will attract the type of girl he wants and repel the types of girls he doesn't want. So maybe my statement was wrong after all.
My girlfriend loves that I like cars so much. She's totally supportive of my hobby. But she wouldn't be if I was into cars to use them as a means to pick up girls. She wouldn't stand for that and I like that about her.
Last edited by sentry65; 02-23-2005 at 11:20 AM.
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Originally posted by explortainment
If you are old enough to drive, you are old enough to buy or be given any car to drive. There is no age limit on what type of car you can legally drive or own. If you or your family can afford it and decide to purchase it then you have the right to do that.
WELCOME TO AMERICA
The real problem lies within the people who have a problem with others exercising the freedoms of being an American...THAT should be the topic of discussion: Whats wrong with the people who are making judgements on others.
If you are old enough to drive, you are old enough to buy or be given any car to drive. There is no age limit on what type of car you can legally drive or own. If you or your family can afford it and decide to purchase it then you have the right to do that.
WELCOME TO AMERICA
The real problem lies within the people who have a problem with others exercising the freedoms of being an American...THAT should be the topic of discussion: Whats wrong with the people who are making judgements on others.
I Just do not think It is wise or prudent to hand a Teen an expensive high powered toy to learn how to drive & as an example of how life will be.
#38
Originally posted by foochdawg
No I mean if I know them.
Like say if I see some 17 year old cruising around in a Z I am not going to give it a second thought.
But if there is a kid that goes to the same school as me or works where I work. I am going to treat him just like any other but if he starts ragging on what I drive because his parents gave him a better car or something assinine like that, yeah, it gets under my skin. I am just saying not all are like that and I only ever really care if I actually interact with the person. Or say I am sitting at a traffic light back when I had my old rust bucket taurus. And some kid pulls up in a BMW and laughs at my car or makes some dumb *** comment about it because for his 16th birthday he got an M3 with a bow.
No I mean if I know them.
Like say if I see some 17 year old cruising around in a Z I am not going to give it a second thought.
But if there is a kid that goes to the same school as me or works where I work. I am going to treat him just like any other but if he starts ragging on what I drive because his parents gave him a better car or something assinine like that, yeah, it gets under my skin. I am just saying not all are like that and I only ever really care if I actually interact with the person. Or say I am sitting at a traffic light back when I had my old rust bucket taurus. And some kid pulls up in a BMW and laughs at my car or makes some dumb *** comment about it because for his 16th birthday he got an M3 with a bow.
#39
Originally posted by chachi999999999
That is much much different. If the kid is making comments to you then you have a right to know what the hell is problem is. I have a friend who owns a 05 S2K, 94 TT Supra, and an 96 accord for his abuse/ winter car. His parents are very rich, and get him what he wants, but he is a very nice guy. He has never made a comment ever to my knowledge to my other friends cars. He is great guy, and I happy for him. I am talking about when just the thought of a young guy driving a Z that his parents bought bothers someone because that is what seems the case with sq40, the person who started this thread. To me that is just jealiousy, and there is more important thing in life to care about is all I am saying. But yea, if the kid is talking smack, give him a smack.
That is much much different. If the kid is making comments to you then you have a right to know what the hell is problem is. I have a friend who owns a 05 S2K, 94 TT Supra, and an 96 accord for his abuse/ winter car. His parents are very rich, and get him what he wants, but he is a very nice guy. He has never made a comment ever to my knowledge to my other friends cars. He is great guy, and I happy for him. I am talking about when just the thought of a young guy driving a Z that his parents bought bothers someone because that is what seems the case with sq40, the person who started this thread. To me that is just jealiousy, and there is more important thing in life to care about is all I am saying. But yea, if the kid is talking smack, give him a smack.
#40
Originally posted by sq40
Its not a matter of legality, I could drive a tractor trailer to work if I choose.
I Just do not think It is wise or prudent to hand a Teen an expensive high powered toy to learn how to drive & as an example of how life will be.
Its not a matter of legality, I could drive a tractor trailer to work if I choose.
I Just do not think It is wise or prudent to hand a Teen an expensive high powered toy to learn how to drive & as an example of how life will be.
I truly believe most of you are treating 16-20 year olds like 8-13 year olds, at 16-20 you should know what is right and wrong and be able to think for yourself...I would hope.
It's just a stereotype you are applying.
I also don't see why people who claim themselves to be "mature" care what happens with other people's lives and still haven't learned to accept things you can't change...instead of fussing over it...which, like this thread, is not going to get you anywhere.