what would be the min salary you have to make in order to comfortably own the next Z
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Originally Posted by MikeyG
I wouldn't count on that, One of the most competitive enviornments I have ever been in especially if you are phD level. Big Pharma is a very small world and I have never heard of people at that level working less than 60-70 hours weeks and they are all salary. One main reason I still work in a lab and not an office![Smilie](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I've known many people that were offered $100+k and a substantial housing allowance in California working for CVS Corporate.
Many 5th and 6th year pharmacy students have told me that Alaska was willing to pay a LOT for pharmacists. The contract was $1million/3 years. I'm not sure what the other specifics were...it must have been that you agree to have your life suck for 3 years.
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Originally Posted by shift-er
You should never buy a car based upon future aspirations. It may sound good in the planning stage, but very few people see there life story play out accordingly.
The "when i graduate and make $80k/yr" mind frame won't save you if in the near future unfortunate events happen and for whatever reason your Z is suddenly a financial burden.
I'm only 23 and make 40k, but i saved like crazy and now have a paid off 03 track. Its not new, but at $19,500 i only borrowed 6k on a loan and am now free and clear.
The "when i graduate and make $80k/yr" mind frame won't save you if in the near future unfortunate events happen and for whatever reason your Z is suddenly a financial burden.
I'm only 23 and make 40k, but i saved like crazy and now have a paid off 03 track. Its not new, but at $19,500 i only borrowed 6k on a loan and am now free and clear.
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For the record, my preference is the Legacy 2.5GT 5spd unless Nissan offers some ridiculous incentives this month. It has conservative styling (could blend in with Accord), it is reliable, it is less expensive (about as much as a V6 Accord), and it has AWD. It is NJ and I do need a vehicle that can get through some pretty bad snow storms just in case and I need something reliable enough because my dad is moving to Florida because of his job. It does leave room for future mods if I do come up with extra cash and time.
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
Wow I must be Poor. I own two homes, three watercraft " All Moded out " and my 06 Z with all the normal bolt on parts.
I have done all this on 45K. It's not hard.
I have done all this on 45K. It's not hard.
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Originally Posted by cooperunionstud
what would be the min salary you have to make in order to comfortably own the next Z.
Given that you are 26 years old, single, living in nyc and paying 1000 a month on rent
Given that you are 26 years old, single, living in nyc and paying 1000 a month on rent
Look at it this way. Lets say that new 2009 Z is going to cost you $35,000 (could be less or more depending on the trim, options etc...)
If you can get a 5 year auto loan at 7% interest on that $35,000, your payments will be about $693 a month. After 5 years, you will have a 5 year old car that you paid $41,580 for that is only worth $14,000. If you sold it after paying it off, that car would have cost you $27,580 to own for those 5 years.
Now, let's say you stick $693/month in a money market account at 3.25% interest. After 3 years you would have $26,168 in the bank. That would be enough to buy a used 2010 Z. In three years you would have a 2 year old car. If you kept putting that $693 in the bank each month for another 2 years for a total of the same 5 years in the first example, you would have a 4 year old car worth $18,000 plus over $17,000 in the bank.
Look at it another way. If you are going to spend $693/month for a car you can either borrow it to buy a new car in 2009 and have a 5 year old car worth $14,000 when you are done or...
Put $693/month in the bank, and buy a 2010 car in three years and after five years you would have a 4 year old car and over $17,000 cash.
Again, borrowing money to buy a car is probably the biggest financial mistake anyone can make. Buy a used econobox for cash, drive it for three years while you save you money. You'll be way ahead of the game particularly when you are just starting out with work and a career.
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Originally Posted by dhays
Your salary doesn't matter. All you have to do is just save your money and buy the car with cash. Simple really. Borrowing money to buy a car, particularly an expensive toy like the Z is really stupid. The only time you should borrow money to buy a car is if you can get financing at a rate that is less than what your invested money is earning. The problem there is that usually you can only get those nice rates on new cars, not used.
Look at it this way. Lets say that new 2009 Z is going to cost you $35,000 (could be less or more depending on the trim, options etc...)
If you can get a 5 year auto loan at 7% interest on that $35,000, your payments will be about $693 a month. After 5 years, you will have a 5 year old car that you paid $41,580 for that is only worth $14,000. If you sold it after paying it off, that car would have cost you $27,580 to own for those 5 years.
Now, let's say you stick $693/month in a money market account at 3.25% interest. After 3 years you would have $26,168 in the bank. That would be enough to buy a used 2010 Z. In three years you would have a 2 year old car. If you kept putting that $693 in the bank each month for another 2 years for a total of the same 5 years in the first example, you would have a 4 year old car worth $18,000 plus over $17,000 in the bank.
Look at it another way. If you are going to spend $693/month for a car you can either borrow it to buy a new car in 2009 and have a 5 year old car worth $14,000 when you are done or...
Put $693/month in the bank, and buy a 2010 car in three years and after five years you would have a 4 year old car and over $17,000 cash.
Again, borrowing money to buy a car is probably the biggest financial mistake anyone can make. Buy a used econobox for cash, drive it for three years while you save you money. You'll be way ahead of the game particularly when you are just starting out with work and a career.
Look at it this way. Lets say that new 2009 Z is going to cost you $35,000 (could be less or more depending on the trim, options etc...)
If you can get a 5 year auto loan at 7% interest on that $35,000, your payments will be about $693 a month. After 5 years, you will have a 5 year old car that you paid $41,580 for that is only worth $14,000. If you sold it after paying it off, that car would have cost you $27,580 to own for those 5 years.
Now, let's say you stick $693/month in a money market account at 3.25% interest. After 3 years you would have $26,168 in the bank. That would be enough to buy a used 2010 Z. In three years you would have a 2 year old car. If you kept putting that $693 in the bank each month for another 2 years for a total of the same 5 years in the first example, you would have a 4 year old car worth $18,000 plus over $17,000 in the bank.
Look at it another way. If you are going to spend $693/month for a car you can either borrow it to buy a new car in 2009 and have a 5 year old car worth $14,000 when you are done or...
Put $693/month in the bank, and buy a 2010 car in three years and after five years you would have a 4 year old car and over $17,000 cash.
Again, borrowing money to buy a car is probably the biggest financial mistake anyone can make. Buy a used econobox for cash, drive it for three years while you save you money. You'll be way ahead of the game particularly when you are just starting out with work and a career.
But with so many manufacturers offering sub 1% APRs for 60 months, you actually benefit from stretching a 0% APR loan out as long as you can if you intend on keeping the vehicle for a while.
Due to inflation $30,000 now is worth more than $30,000 later. If a 0% APR for 60 month incentive came out and I did have $30,000 in cash right now, I'd rather take the 0%APR for 60 months. I believe this is what you meant to say.
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
In most cases I'd agree with +2% APR, I'd probably rather buy in cash than borrow.
But with so many manufacturers offering sub 1% APRs for 60 months, you actually benefit from stretching a 0% APR loan out as long as you can if you intend on keeping the vehicle for a while.
Due to inflation $30,000 now is worth more than $30,000 later. If a 0% APR for 60 month incentive came out and I did have $30,000 in cash right now, I'd rather take the 0%APR for 60 months. I believe this is what you meant to say.
But with so many manufacturers offering sub 1% APRs for 60 months, you actually benefit from stretching a 0% APR loan out as long as you can if you intend on keeping the vehicle for a while.
Due to inflation $30,000 now is worth more than $30,000 later. If a 0% APR for 60 month incentive came out and I did have $30,000 in cash right now, I'd rather take the 0%APR for 60 months. I believe this is what you meant to say.
However, for most folks who can't get 2% financing and can't write off the depreciation on their taxes, I'd still suggest that borrowing to buy a car is a mistake.
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damn Rutgers students! now i know where all my taxes are going, to subsidize Z payments!!!
when i went to Rutgers (2000), i thought it was a 5 year pharmacy program (i believed they changed it after i graduated)? how long is the doctorate program, 8?
when i went to Rutgers (2000), i thought it was a 5 year pharmacy program (i believed they changed it after i graduated)? how long is the doctorate program, 8?
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
You are probably referring to pharmaceutical sales. It is a competitive environment in that field because that area doesn't actually require a PharmD, although it'd really be beneficial to have one. There are positions in BigPharma that are solely restricted to those with PharmD and they usually pay much better for the amount of working that you would do (clinical trials come to mind).
I've known many people that were offered $100+k and a substantial housing allowance in California working for CVS Corporate.
Many 5th and 6th year pharmacy students have told me that Alaska was willing to pay a LOT for pharmacists. The contract was $1million/3 years. I'm not sure what the other specifics were...it must have been that you agree to have your life suck for 3 years.
I've known many people that were offered $100+k and a substantial housing allowance in California working for CVS Corporate.
Many 5th and 6th year pharmacy students have told me that Alaska was willing to pay a LOT for pharmacists. The contract was $1million/3 years. I'm not sure what the other specifics were...it must have been that you agree to have your life suck for 3 years.
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damn Rutgers students! now i know where all my taxes are going, to subsidize Z payments!!!
when i went to Rutgers (2000), i thought it was a 5 year pharmacy program (i believed they changed it after i graduated)? how long is the doctorate program, 8?
when i went to Rutgers (2000), i thought it was a 5 year pharmacy program (i believed they changed it after i graduated)? how long is the doctorate program, 8?
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
Wow I must be Poor. I own two homes, three watercraft " All Moded out " and my 06 Z with all the normal bolt on parts.
I have done all this on 45K. It's not hard.
I have done all this on 45K. It's not hard.
Good financial planning > Good income