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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by orbitalpunk
is it really the spray of the hose that removes dirt safely? is that it?

a damp cloth on the 1st pass wouldn't work? then dry with a clean dry towel?

i just hate drying this car after a wash. its a real back breaker. it has to be so dry due to the calcium in tap/hose water.

i do have a duster, but dont like using it. and the car is garaged. so is quick deatiling uterly pointless also?
Yes, water is what removes the dirt. The more water, the better. That's how you prevent swirls and scratches.

Once you have a good coat of wax on the car, drying is a whole lot easier. Most of the water runs off, especially if you wash it using the "sheeting" method.

Some people swear by quick detailing, I don't do it. If I have dust settled on my car, the duster works fine. If it gets too dusty or dirty, then washing is the way to go.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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simple...


























dont drive...
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Geez, man, washing the Z every couple weeks is just not that big a deal; can be done in half an hour. I'm 65 and I don't find drying the Z a back breaker.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
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Umm, you don't wash a duster.

washing meaning soaking in warm water. How do you think you take the dirt out?

You can continue to use it if you want since you think you know how to work it. But don't tell novice people to use one.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
washing meaning soaking in warm water. How do you think you take the dirt out?

You can continue to use it if you want since you think you know how to work it. But don't tell novice people to use one.
You don't take the dirt out.

It's pretty obvious that you don't know the first thing about the Cali Duster. It's even more obvious that you haven't even bothered to read the instructions on how to use or how to clean one. It is you that should not be giving advice related to the duster.

At least take a few minutes to read the instructions so when you erroneously give advice on it, you'll have some of the facts correct. Otherwise, you totally discredit your position by demonstrating your ignorance.

From the Cali Duster FAQ (http://calcarduster.com/faq.asp):
How do I clean my Duster?
Because of a special permanently baked in paraffin treatment, The Original California Dusters are made to provide years of effective service without the need for cleaning. Simply shake them out before and after each use. The "dirtier" they get the better they work.

If you find it necessary to clean your Duster because it is too dirty or if the Duster stops lifting dust, it can be washed. You may hand wash your Duster in cold water with a mild detergent such as Woolite, then air dry. Do not use hot water to wash or hot air to dry, as heat or harsh detergent may remove the special paraffin treatment.

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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Correctly used, a Cali Duster will not harm the paint of a car. People who inducing marring are trying to remove things the duster was not designed for.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I've been using the Cali duster for the past few years. I have never washed it, and have not had any problems with it.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
You don't take the dirt out.

It's pretty obvious that you don't know the first thing about the Cali Duster. It's even more obvious that you haven't even bothered to read the instructions on how to use or how to clean one. It is you that should not be giving advice related to the duster.

At least take a few minutes to read the instructions so when you erroneously give advice on it, you'll have some of the facts correct. Otherwise, you totally discredit your position by demonstrating your ignorance.

From the Cali Duster FAQ (http://calcarduster.com/faq.asp):
How do I clean my Duster?
Because of a special permanently baked in paraffin treatment, The Original California Dusters are made to provide years of effective service without the need for cleaning. Simply shake them out before and after each use. The "dirtier" they get the better they work.

If you find it necessary to clean your Duster because it is too dirty or if the Duster stops lifting dust, it can be washed. You may hand wash your Duster in cold water with a mild detergent such as Woolite, then air dry. Do not use hot water to wash or hot air to dry, as heat or harsh detergent may remove the special paraffin treatment.

ah, you are correct. Just read the pamplet in my duster.

I wish you lived closer, i would let you dust my car and see what happens.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
ah, you are correct. Just read the pamplet in my duster.

I wish you lived closer, i would let you dust my car and see what happens.
I've dusted a few black cars and checked for marring under 1000w halogens becuase like you, I was skeptical. I emphasize again, used properly to remove light dusting, it doesn't induce marring. I've seen it with my own eyes, maybe you aren't using it right
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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My new workplace , we have to detail some big accounts including bentleys, 1 black lambo, porsches, all of which they WILL NOT let us use california duster. They said of minor scratching of previous show room cars. Maybe you guys use it for VERY VERY light dust but down here, i guess dirt builds up. We do have a duster down there but they are only to be used right before a polish job to take some minor dust away then taking away all of the scratches/swirls/marring.

My experience and pros around me say the same. Duster is no good. MY opinion though. Like you guys, you prefer them.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
My new workplace , we have to detail some big accounts including bentleys, 1 black lambo, porsches, all of which they WILL NOT let us use california duster. They said of minor scratching of previous show room cars. Maybe you guys use it for VERY VERY light dust but down here, i guess dirt builds up. We do have a duster down there but they are only to be used right before a polish job to take some minor dust away then taking away all of the scratches/swirls/marring.

My experience and pros around me say the same. Duster is no good. MY opinion though. Like you guys, you prefer them.
Thats the problem, its not meant for dirt. I only use it on dust I can tell will be easily removed, like I can actually blow it off.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Optimum No Rinse
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger V
Optimum No Rinse
that looks like a bad idea. but thanks for the input.

sure is a lot of info on dusting. hehe.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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I've been using my California Duster on my new Z for about 2 weeks. I'm very happy with the results so far.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by orbitalpunk
is it really the spray of the hose that removes dirt safely? is that it?
No. Its a combination of soap and water.

Soap molecules are long and stringy just like oil molecules are. The effect is that the soap molecule will latch onto the oil with its tail and be flushed away with other water molecules attached with its head.

Soap molecules also disrupt the surface tension of water. So in a way it flattens waters ability to remain in this sphere configuration and makes the water molecules flatter thus wetting everything even the smallest crevices.
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