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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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So I am about to take a big step and buy a PC package to start detailing cars.

One thing that I am confused about is all the different types of polishes Menzerna has to offer.

It seems I can go one of 2 routes...

1) Intensive Polish, followed by finishing touch polish, then a glaze, sealant, and wax

2) Ceramic Clear Coat Polish, followed by glaze, sealant, and wax.

I am leaning towards the #2 because it seems this is a better product and can combine a good polishing with no haze, and the ability to go right to the glaze step after. Has anyone used/had success with this product?


Also should/can glaze and sealants be applied hand or do you need the heat of the buffer to really get them into the inperfections in the paint.

Right now my car has very minor swirls, and I dont want to risk marring my paint for no reason.

What is the best route to go here?

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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you might get away with just the PO85U and then glaze ect.. Most glazes are just fine to put on by hand. Plus if the polish does its job you dont have to worry about filling with glazes.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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you might get away with just the PO85U and then glaze ect.. Most glazes are just fine to put on by hand. Plus if the polish does its job you dont have to worry about filling with glazes.
even if you say that, PO85U does not have much cut to it.

OP, if you're going to buy IP, it's not a one step thing. Some people can finish with IP, but with PC, i'd doubt it. You need both if you're going to use IP and do paint correction. You won't get much cut on PO85U so it won't correct paint at all.

Have you looked at the newer generation of Menzerna polishes though? I use SIP and PO106FF and it's good enough on 90% of the cars I work on. If swirls are light, you can do a one step with PO106FF and call it day too. It has more bite than PO85U. If you want an even finer finish, you could add PO85RD on top of that and your paint will luster like no other.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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even if you say that, PO85U does not have much cut to it.

OP, if you're going to buy IP, it's not a one step thing. Some people can finish with IP, but with PC, i'd doubt it. You need both if you're going to use IP and do paint correction. You won't get much cut on PO85U so it won't correct paint at all.

Have you looked at the newer generation of Menzerna polishes though? I use SIP and PO106FF and it's good enough on 90% of the cars I work on. If swirls are light, you can do a one step with PO106FF and call it day too. It has more bite than PO85U. If you want an even finer finish, you could add PO85RD on top of that and your paint will luster like no other.

Yea I think the Ceramic Clear Coat polish I was thinking of is the PO106FF (all of those different codes were getting me confused as well)

http://www.detailedimage.com/Menzern...at-Polish-P75/

That seems to be the way to go, since my paint is in pretty good shape. I assume I use a white polishing pad with it, correct? and then the blue pad for the PO85RD.

http://www.detailedimage.com/Menzern...D-Polish-P217/

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lento
So I am about to take a big step and buy a PC package to start detailing cars.

One thing that I am confused about is all the different types of polishes Menzerna has to offer.

It seems I can go one of 2 routes...

1) Intensive Polish, followed by finishing touch polish, then a glaze, sealant, and wax

2) Ceramic Clear Coat Polish, followed by glaze, sealant, and wax.

I am leaning towards the #2 because it seems this is a better product and can combine a good polishing with no haze, and the ability to go right to the glaze step after. Has anyone used/had success with this product?


Also should/can glaze and sealants be applied hand or do you need the heat of the buffer to really get them into the imperfections in the paint.

Right now my car has very minor swirls, and I don't want to risk marring my paint for no reason.

What is the best route to go here?

Thanks
I think both options you listed could work, it just depends on what results you're looking for. Using just the PO106FF will give you fairly good cutting power with a white polishing pad. A two step process (IP orange pad and FPII white pad) would probably get you better results, but obviously that takes longer. The PO106FF definitely has outstanding cutting power for a light polish and should help you get some pretty good results. If you are only going to do one step I would recommend the PO106FF over the PO85RD. Both are great polishes but I think the increased cutting power and still very smooth finish would be best for you.

As a side note many people who try just a light polish wish they got a medium polish/pad (orange pad) after. Most people feel that their vehicles swirls are very light and don't realize a medium polish is still relatively light and safe to use. Unless you are using a high speed orbital (Flex or similar buffer) or rotary buffer you will most likely not generate enough power to really reduce any part of the clear coat or cause other more serious problems. With a PC 7424 or hand applications you are truly just buffing the surface. I don't say this to steer you towards buying something you don't need because that is the last thing I want to do. However it's just very common for detailers to expect more swirls to be buffed out then is possible with just one step.

You can apply a glaze, sealant and (liquid) wax with a buffer or by hand. Paste waxes should be applied by hand only. You don't need nearly as much heat and pressure for these steps because you don't need to break down these kinds of products. For these steps you are more trying to spread the product thoroughly and evenly. I still prefer a buffer because I think it does a very thorough job and it saves me energy. However either application method works.

Greg @ Detailed Image
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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sip and 106ff 3 orange pads 3 white pads sip on orange 106ff on white. Use with a pc or a flex and youll be good to go.
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