What do you clean your windshield with?
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Newspaper works for me too! I want to try microfiber though, cause i think it will be easier. On the outside, I use a bug/tar sponge and wash and dry it like the rest of my car.
On the inside, i just use regular ammonia free window cleaner.
On the inside, i just use regular ammonia free window cleaner.
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Originally posted by POWERZ
Sorry, we have different definitions of scientific. The type of science I rely on involves experimentation and observation. I try different products and methods and use what works best for me. If you were really interested in a scientific discussion you should have worked on your first post a little more. I couldn't find anything scientific in what you said:
Paper is paper? Ha, I doubt you even believe what you said. To think that newspaper is even remotely similar to resume paper is laughable at best. Not absorbent? Not lint free? It's obvious you have never tried cleaning your windows with newspaper.
Go smash some bugs on your windshield and come back and do an actual test rather than just relying on speculation. Do one section with microfiber, one with newspaper, another with paper towels, and finally some resume paper - just for fun. Then we can talk.
Sorry, we have different definitions of scientific. The type of science I rely on involves experimentation and observation. I try different products and methods and use what works best for me. If you were really interested in a scientific discussion you should have worked on your first post a little more. I couldn't find anything scientific in what you said:
Paper is paper? Ha, I doubt you even believe what you said. To think that newspaper is even remotely similar to resume paper is laughable at best. Not absorbent? Not lint free? It's obvious you have never tried cleaning your windows with newspaper.
Go smash some bugs on your windshield and come back and do an actual test rather than just relying on speculation. Do one section with microfiber, one with newspaper, another with paper towels, and finally some resume paper - just for fun. Then we can talk.
Consumer Reports even did a test many years ago with newspaper and came up with the same conlusions: newspaper is a propogated myth.
Good ahead powerz, keep believing this. Live in your little world of paper mache.
Believe me, I tried newspaper. It is a myth.
-Xray
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Originally posted by dmazyn
I use Stoner's Invisable Glass cleaner and Autoglym Glass Polish
Cleaner(Got this from Autopia). I polish the glass to remove all films about once a month then use the stoner cleaner between polishes. This removes all films and waterspots from the windows and they are 100% clear.
I use Stoner's Invisable Glass cleaner and Autoglym Glass Polish
Cleaner(Got this from Autopia). I polish the glass to remove all films about once a month then use the stoner cleaner between polishes. This removes all films and waterspots from the windows and they are 100% clear.
Newspaper is a myth.
-Xray
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Originally posted by xray
This is a post going nowhere. Did I not state that you should search the web for objective evidence before posting. This newspaper drivel is just your poor faith, akin to religion.
Consumer Reports even did a test many years ago with newspaper and came up with the same conlusions: newspaper is a propogated myth.
Good ahead powerz, keep believing this. Live in your little world of paper mache.
Believe me, I tried newspaper. It is a myth.
-Xray
This is a post going nowhere. Did I not state that you should search the web for objective evidence before posting. This newspaper drivel is just your poor faith, akin to religion.
Consumer Reports even did a test many years ago with newspaper and came up with the same conlusions: newspaper is a propogated myth.
Good ahead powerz, keep believing this. Live in your little world of paper mache.
Believe me, I tried newspaper. It is a myth.
-Xray
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Originally posted by dmazyn
I use Stoner's Invisable Glass cleaner and Autoglym Glass Polish
Cleaner(Got this from Autopia). I polish the glass to remove all films about once a month then use the stoner cleaner between polishes. This removes all films and waterspots from the windows and they are 100% clear.
I use Stoner's Invisable Glass cleaner and Autoglym Glass Polish
Cleaner(Got this from Autopia). I polish the glass to remove all films about once a month then use the stoner cleaner between polishes. This removes all films and waterspots from the windows and they are 100% clear.
Newspaper is a myth.
-Xray
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oops, dihydrogen, not dihydrous. With the spears flying in this forum, I realized I might get called out.
Dihydrogen monoxide IS the best window cleaner, but you better buy it now, before the "tree huggers" ban it! http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Dihydrogen monoxide IS the best window cleaner, but you better buy it now, before the "tree huggers" ban it! http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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Originally posted by POWERZ
I already posted a link to one of the best detailing sites on the net. If you had done any research yourself instead of basing your argument on what you think you remember reading in Consumer Reports many years back, you would see that there are scores of professional detailers that swear by this method. You think it's a myth - fine with me. I was just writing to help answer the original poster's question and share what works for me, not to get in a pissing match with you. Thanks for posting your opinion.
I already posted a link to one of the best detailing sites on the net. If you had done any research yourself instead of basing your argument on what you think you remember reading in Consumer Reports many years back, you would see that there are scores of professional detailers that swear by this method. You think it's a myth - fine with me. I was just writing to help answer the original poster's question and share what works for me, not to get in a pissing match with you. Thanks for posting your opinion.
I bet you fell for the Tornado and Teflon treatment as well.
Conusmer Reports isn't always right, but at least they hold more weight than 6000 bubba's and their wad of newspaper.
I'll stick to my "opinion", you keep killing trees.
-Xray
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some thoughts- newsprint is actually a good cleaner, because it is made of wood fibers- so it is a little abrasive. But, it can cause scratching if you get a grain of sand under your hand- so the microfiber is much better from this point of view.
A really good cleaning solution is 1 quart of water, a 1/2 teaspoon of laundry soap (liquid) or some of the "simple green" or "magic orange" cleaner liquids, and a teaspoon of ammonia. This will cut the deposits that come out of the vinyl in the interior (this is the gray film that covers the inside of the windows). Most of the commercial cleaners are some variation on this chemical stew....
A really good cleaning solution is 1 quart of water, a 1/2 teaspoon of laundry soap (liquid) or some of the "simple green" or "magic orange" cleaner liquids, and a teaspoon of ammonia. This will cut the deposits that come out of the vinyl in the interior (this is the gray film that covers the inside of the windows). Most of the commercial cleaners are some variation on this chemical stew....
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www.griotsgarage.com got some nice lint free paper I love using their products! It's great!
I don't really have to clean the window that much I don't use rain-x on my windshiedl either cause it eats up the wiper blades
I don't really have to clean the window that much I don't use rain-x on my windshiedl either cause it eats up the wiper blades
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I tried the Rain-X stuff one time- left a coating that caused night driving misery- got the star-effect and halos on the street lights.
Did cause the water to run off pretty effectively at first, but then wore out unevenly under the blade. Gave up.
Did cause the water to run off pretty effectively at first, but then wore out unevenly under the blade. Gave up.
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Originally posted by OptimusP517
I don't really have to clean the window that much I don't use rain-x on my windshiedl either cause it eats up the wiper blades
I don't really have to clean the window that much I don't use rain-x on my windshiedl either cause it eats up the wiper blades
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I tried the Rain-X stuff one time- left a coating that caused night driving misery- got the star-effect and halos on the street lights.
Did cause the water to run off pretty effectively at first, but then wore out unevenly under the blade. Gave up.
I tried the Rain-X stuff one time- left a coating that caused night driving misery- got the star-effect and halos on the street lights.
Did cause the water to run off pretty effectively at first, but then wore out unevenly under the blade. Gave up.
And of course it wore off! You don't wax your car once the entire time you own it. :-) It needs reapplication just like anything else. When you have it on right it's simply amazing stuff. Drive through a downpour where others are pulling off the road, and barely even need the wipers.
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call me stupid, but what about good ole' Windex?
I swear by Rain-X. Of course it will wear off after being scraped by the wipers--it takes about 30 seconds to reapply another coat, so I think it's worth it, especially in night rain driving. Another added benefit--ice comes off easier from a rain-x coated windshield.
I swear by Rain-X. Of course it will wear off after being scraped by the wipers--it takes about 30 seconds to reapply another coat, so I think it's worth it, especially in night rain driving. Another added benefit--ice comes off easier from a rain-x coated windshield.
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Re: What do you clean your windshield with?
Originally posted by mdelia
I can't seem to get my windshield clean enough. Always seem to have a film of sorts on the inside.
I can't seem to get my windshield clean enough. Always seem to have a film of sorts on the inside.
The same thing happens to my rear window. However the door windows stay perfectly clean.
Is it possible that the sun is causing some vapor from the plastic?
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Originally posted by xray
Newspaper is a ridiculous myth that somehow is still being circulated. Lint free towels, or a microfiber is your only choice.
-Xray
Newspaper is a ridiculous myth that somehow is still being circulated. Lint free towels, or a microfiber is your only choice.
-Xray
I use stoners, and will clay bar the windshield every few months (you'd be amazed at the grime it'll remove from your windshield)
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1st - Rain-X applied properly and removed is great stuff...having my windsheild replaced and driving with a brand new windshield with out Rain-X almost seemed dangerous to me - rainwater smeared all over my windshield, even used wiperbaldes at fastest speed and could barely see...afterwards a quick application Rain-X and next rainstorm...water beaded off of windshield - wipers set to max delay and life was good again...
2nd - old newspaper print ink was different than todays and actually had some polishing qualities which made it great for glass...I think now its best attributes are no lint
3rd - eagle one 20/20 GREAT stuff for glass, my girl got me a glass and mirror MF towels from LinensandThings and it too is really good... different MF than I'm used too(I use el cheapo wally word MF), this glass/mirror MF is almost like a chamois when in use...drags across glass...but really removes build up on inside of windshield
2nd - old newspaper print ink was different than todays and actually had some polishing qualities which made it great for glass...I think now its best attributes are no lint
3rd - eagle one 20/20 GREAT stuff for glass, my girl got me a glass and mirror MF towels from LinensandThings and it too is really good... different MF than I'm used too(I use el cheapo wally word MF), this glass/mirror MF is almost like a chamois when in use...drags across glass...but really removes build up on inside of windshield
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I'm glad to see everyone's posts are off topic. The original post was about a film on the inside of the windshield. This has absolutely nothing to do with streaks or newspaper....
C'mon guys, this site is usually helpful with straight to the point answers and not these boring arguments over newspaper. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, fine. If you're not sure, try it or don't. Let's figure out why we have to KEEP cleaning the inside so often.
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Tim
C'mon guys, this site is usually helpful with straight to the point answers and not these boring arguments over newspaper. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, fine. If you're not sure, try it or don't. Let's figure out why we have to KEEP cleaning the inside so often.
Thanks,
Tim
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Re: What do you clean your windshield with?
Originally posted by mdelia
I can't seem to get my windshield clean enough. Always seem to have a film of sorts on the inside.
I can't seem to get my windshield clean enough. Always seem to have a film of sorts on the inside.
The Washington Post used with Stoners has produced excellent results on my exterior glass for years.
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I'm glad to see everyone's posts are off topic. The original post was about a film on the inside of the windshield. This has absolutely nothing to do with streaks or newspaper....
C'mon guys, this site is usually helpful with straight to the point answers and not these boring arguments over newspaper. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, fine. If you're not sure, try it or don't. Let's figure out why we have to KEEP cleaning the inside so often.
Thanks,
Tim
I'm glad to see everyone's posts are off topic. The original post was about a film on the inside of the windshield. This has absolutely nothing to do with streaks or newspaper....
C'mon guys, this site is usually helpful with straight to the point answers and not these boring arguments over newspaper. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, fine. If you're not sure, try it or don't. Let's figure out why we have to KEEP cleaning the inside so often.
Thanks,
Tim
What do you clean your windshield with?
Let's figure out why we have to KEEP cleaning the inside so often.
I don't know why you would knock people offering help, even tho they may have differing opinions....these are not scientific polls...but people with some anecdotal oberservations trying to help a fellow board member