i am not finding them on that page??? http://www.courtesyparts.com/350z/exterior.html look for yourself I dont see any HELP! I really want to order some!

 

I'm sorry I didn't make this clear. You will have to give them the parts numbers. (See my thread in Body/Exterior Forum.) When I ordered mine it wasn't obvious to them what the parts were by name in their database/book, but once they had the numbers they found everything.

By the way, I did this over the phone.
800-527-1909

 

I just wanted to clear up a common misconception. Dawn will not remove Zaino.

 

What will remove Zaino then? It deteriorates on its own so Im sure that other products will strip the wax.

 

wow, didn't know this would start such a debate.

Why won't dawn take off Zaino? I never take advice straight from someone without proof.

I need someone to either prove that damn does take off Zaino or that it does not take off Zaino before I make a decision. Otherwise it's just one person's opinion over the other.

Oh, the choices to make.

 

Yes Scaf, I did take that pic. It was from my "Dr Bonz New Formula Zaino" thread.

Rouxeny: You know what we celebs always say, ANY publicity (good or bad) is GOOD publicity!

 

nah 2 laaaaaaaaa z

 

All I can tell you is that Dawn supposedly does not remove Zaino. This is from a VERY reliable source that knows all there is to know about Zaino.

 

Dawn is recommended as a first step in the Zaino process because it will remove all wax. Zaino is not a wax, it is a polymer (plastic) sealant. The only thing I have ever heard recommended to remove Zaino is a solution of half water and half alcohol.

 

What kind of proof do you need? Will you take Sal Zaino's word for it? See Dr. Bonz's statement above referring to a "VERY reliable source that knows all there is to know about Zaino. "

 

Ok, I'm not trying to start something, it's just that I have heard all kinds of things. I'll take your guys words for it.

 

Interesting, but say you only do one layer of Zaino(well, through the steps once). Isn't it required that you redo it every 6 months or a year? So it does deteriorate just sitting on the car... i'm not sure why using a harsh soap wouldn't escalate the deterioration process.

 

My wild guess is that Dawn is probably not "good" for a coat of Zaino, as you said it would probably hasten the deterioration, but we're splitting hairs here. Dawn will not "strip" off Zaino, and nobody who really knows ever suggested that you use Dawn except to strip a coat of wax before applying Zaino (or Blackfire, or any other non-wax coating). Also, it is not required or even recommended that you "redo it" ever.

I suggest that you all read this article:

Dr Bonz's interview with Sal Zaino

 

At some time you will have to redo it IF you aren't applying new coats frequently. After some period the polymer will be removed to the extent that is no longer doing it's job. Maybe it's a year or so but Zaino does deteriorate over time... I'll take that alcohol will remove it but that just seems overboard to use on a polish.

 

I think we're misunderstanding each other. When you said "redo it" I thought you meant strip it all off and start over from scratch. The reason I thought that, I guess, is that you sometimes need to do that with waxes, which will cloud and discolor with age.

Of course, nothing (not even Zaino ) will last forever. You should start with at least 2 coats, then I think the expected "bead life" is around 6-8 months, especially if you wash with Z7. You should never need to strip all the Zaino off and start over. You just wash & re-apply.

As I have posted before, the problem with Zaino is that it's addicting! You get the car looking so nice that you want to keep it looking nice, so you wash it more often. Then you apply another coat and you see how much better it looks with additional coats, so you put on more! And more!

 

The other reason that you need to continue to apply Zaino (or any product) deterioration aside, is that you also should CLEAN the paint every so often. I would recommend a light claying every so often (I have done it twice, first application of Zaino, and another time about 2 months ago) to get all of the debris stuck in the Zaino. Sal mentions this in his interview. If you lightly run the lubed clay (I use Z-7 as a lube) you don't really remove all your Zaino but you can get rid of all the debris this way. Then you would probably want to re-Zaino at that time.

In fact, if you look at the pic of the water beading on my car that was posted earlier in this thread, you'll see some pretty good beads. That pic was taken right after I clayed the car. I wanted to prove that the Zaino was still there and beading after the clay.

 

Right, now with Zaino you don't necessarily have to strip it at any time. I've been a blackfire user for a long time and it's very addicting to just run out there and throw a coat on when you want to. I don't have a darker colored car anymore so I'm going to be trying a new polymer(silver now). Anyhow, if you're keeping up with the coats then there's no need to worry about removing all of a product like blackfire, zaino, or another "non-wax"

Dr. Bonz, I could see using a claybar and removing some of the zaino on the car. I understand that the intent would be to use it to remove debris embedded in the zaino and underlying paint. Unless there's some hardening agent that I don't know about that makes it three times as difficult to remove zaino. A wax will come off with ease using a claybar.

 

As far as wear under mild abrasion goes, compare the hardness of a candle to the hardness of a plastic milk jug. A candle is wax. From what I have been able to tell, a milk jug is the same generic plastic family as the Zaino polymer. This is just a general idea, not exact.