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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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No worries... A PC is a detailing tool that NOBODY should be without. It works wonders, whether is be for swirl removal, or simple wax application. Cuts down on time, and increases effectiveness.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Maybe after 2 years I'll random orbiter the paint. Its just so thin and fragile, I'm afraid that if I do it all the time, I won't have any clearcoat left in 3 years.
I often wonder if frequent use of a polish or abrasive cleaner reduces the life of a paint job.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 04:24 AM
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it depends how abrasive a polish we're talking about TCL. Surely you wouldn't want to go and use a heavy grit compound on your car's paint with any sort of frequency. I'd even go so far as to say you shouldn't use a fine grit compound on your car regularly. But most imperfections and surface marring can be taken care of with less abrasive polishes. In order to truely remove any swirl marks or surface scratches, some of the car's clearcoat MUST be broken down. It's as simple as that! Short of that, you'll forever have those swirl marks in your clearcoat.

Cars come with plenty of clearcoat from the factory that a swirl mark removal polishing every 4 or 5 months or so isn't going to eat away all the clear coat. Obviously some auto makers paint jobs are better than others, and those will stand up that much longer to repeated polishing. My friend who owns an auto body shop tells me it shouldn't really be of much concern to the average hobby detailer.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 05:15 AM
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so where can u order the stuff?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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http://www.autogeek.net/mg12718.html

Put in coupon code= clubmember (for a 10% discount)
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Chris S27
.... In order to truely remove any swirl marks or surface scratches, some of the car's clearcoat MUST be broken down. It's as simple as that! Short of that, you'll forever have those swirl marks in your clearcoat. ...

What about those people who have layer upon layer upon layer of polymer sealant on their cars? It is possible that the swirl marks on their vehicles may not have gotten down to the paint surface? If so, that may be a good reason to layer on the sealant.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Your car looks very nice but I must add that your reflection shot with the lights seems somewhat fuzzy. Look at this pic I took on my roof. The flags are chrystal clear. You all know what I use.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Please do check back in a month. I would be interested in the durability of this product as I have heard a lot about it. Don't stop at a month though. In the Guru Report shootout, they carried it out to 8 weeks and Zaino was head and shoulders above the rest at this stage.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
Look at this pic I took on my roof. The flags are crystal clear.
Awesome, Bonz.

Can you HURL or copy us the Guru Report shootout results?
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by MrGraphics
Its not a "wax" - its a synthetic polymer - just like Zaino is. Marketing is probably using the term wax because this is a mass marketed product, and most people get confused by terms such as wax, polish, polymer, etc.

It is really a lot different than Zaino, it is just like Meguiar's #20 with a different smell.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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If the image looks a little blurry, don't blame the NXT, blame the photographer

I didn't use a flash, so the shutter had to stay open a bit longer - thus some blur. I didnt use a tripod.

This weekend, I parked my car and about 5 seagulls decided to use my car as target practice. I drove and got lunch, went to the bathroom, soaked a bunch of napkins (soft white ones from the table, not the brown papertowels in the bathroom), went out and set them on the droppings

1 minute later I softly wiped it off. Not a mark, not one bit of etch, and it was effortless. Didn't even have to rub.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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I don't know what HURL is (unless you want me to vomit them out there!).

I did one of my Zaino editorials over at Frenzy on the Guru Reports and the guys who wrote it asked me to remove the results since it violated their copyright and would hinder sales of their report.

Here is a link to my editorial:

http://www.350zfrenzy.com/forum/view.php?pg=editorials

If you would like to know where a particular product ended up, let me know. I suppose as long as I don't write out the entire list of them it would be OK.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
I don't know what HURL is (unless you want me to vomit them out there!).

Here is a link to my editorial:

http://www.350zfrenzy.com/forum/view.php?pg=editorials
lol - URL is the term for a web address. Acronym something like Universal Resource Label, I can't remember for sure right now. HURL is what you did - throw me an URL - send me a link.

Thanks
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
Your car looks very nice but I must add that your reflection shot with the lights seems somewhat fuzzy. Look at this pic I took on my roof. The flags are chrystal clear. You all know what I use.



Bonz... I have to admit as a Blackfire fan... that Zaino photo shot of your Z is a winner.

I am really curious that if the NXT were good.. how would an application of that on top of Zaino or Blackfire look ? Not certain if it is good to mix different products (although the polymer base is the same) -- but interesting.

My standard Blackfired Z shot....
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by fairladyZ in Japan
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I am really curious that if the NXT were good.. how would an application of that on top of Zaino or Blackfire look ? Not certain if it is good to mix different products (although the polymer base is the same) -- but interesting.

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One 350Z owner (MSOsr I think) posted having good results putting NXT over his existing Zaino'ed car. I will likely give it a try over Blackfire rather than stripping off the base that I've already applied.

The detailers on the Autopia forum are always trying combinations of products. One of the most popular seems to be using Klasse AIO (All-in-one cleaner/acrylic) as a base and adding a layer of polymer sealant or wax on top of it. I plan to use AIO as a first step on my daily drivers since it will save me one step in the process (AIO will clean and lay down one layer in a single step. Step 2 will be a second layer of a polymer). I'm looking to save time with the daily drivers since I've got 3 of those in the family to maintain.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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One 350Z owner (MSOsr I think) posted having good results putting NXT over his existing Zaino'ed car. I will likely give it a try over Blackfire rather than stripping off the base that I've already applied.

The detailers on the Autopia forum are always trying combinations of products. One of the most popular seems to be using Klasse AIO (All-in-one cleaner/acrylic) as a base and adding a layer of polymer sealant or wax on top of it. I plan to use AIO as a first step on my daily drivers since it will save me one step in the process (AIO will clean and lay down one layer in a single step. Step 2 will be a second layer of a polymer). I'm looking to save time with the daily drivers since I've got 3 of those in the family to maintain.
Tom... Yes ! Mix-and-match might be very interesting. I am looking forward to hearing the results of your test.

Agree... that it makes sense applying NXT over Blackfire or Zaino ... no sense wasting all those hours of previous application.

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 03:13 AM
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I know what a URL is but I didn't know about the HURL!

There is no link to the Guru Report results from them. There is one to order their magazine but they won't publish the results for free.

Like I said, if you are really interested in a product I can give you its rank if you want. Remember, this test was done in 2001-02 so any new ones won't be on it.

Let's just say that I, for one, am VERY pleased with MY choice of polymer sealant!
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Let's just say that I, for one, am VERY pleased with MY choice of polymer sealant!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............

Might I say that your comments on experimentation into different worlds of polymers... have shades.... that the Zainoists are ---

"nattering nabobs of negativism" comprised of an "effete corps of impudent snobs" .. ???
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Originally posted by fairladyZ in Japan
Might I say that your comments on experimentation into different worlds of polymers... have shades.... that the Zainoists are ---

"nattering nabobs of negativism" comprised of an "effete corps of impudent snobs" .. ???
You might say that, yes. But if you did, you would be totally off-base and just plain wrong.

Interesting quotes, I hadn't heard them for many years. (Where did you dig up that pic of Spiro?) The only problem is that none of the words apply to Zaino enthusiasts!
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by fairladyZ in Japan
Tom... Yes ! Mix-and-match might be very interesting. I am looking forward to hearing the results of your test.

Agree... that it makes sense applying NXT over Blackfire or Zaino ... no sense wasting all those hours of previous application.

Bill
Bill, I'm waiting for spring to arrive before applying it ( for the temperature and for the durability reports from the initial users). Some people got early samples from Meguiars so I expect the first reports on durability to come from that crowd.
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