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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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everyday i find little yellow specks of bird crap on my Z...i guess where i park there's lots of birds? its not the full-on crap but just specks of it here and there...every nite i look for them and try to remove it, but there a few that have already set into the paint that i can't rub off...anyone know what i can do...i'm really pissed that the bird sh#t sets in so quick...please someone HELP...
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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I would like to know as well.. i'm having the same problem on my car...
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Are you sure it's not just tree sap?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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too small to be sap...that's what i thought at first but when you get it wet you can tell it's bird crap...but either way, whether it's sap or crap...how can i get rid of it??????
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:34 AM
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Take a look at Brad4rdhay's detailing dection under paint prep about the ABC System by Auto International. A very good read. Also, it sounds like you will be investing in a cover for you're baby if the birds are that bad.

Good Luck...
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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My bird took a good purple, berries, crap on my car. Cleaned it off no more than 3 hrs. later and it appears to have eaten into the clear coat. Tried claying, McGuires Fine Cut polishing compound, cleaner wax. Nothing worked. I'm having my Deatailer hopefully buff out the spot as well a a small 3" scratch which came from the dealer. I'll then have him Teflon seal the paint with a few good coats of Pinnacle Soverign Carnuba. Hopefully this will protect my Black Beauty in the future.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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Hey all. I'm new around here and haven't ordered my Z yet. However I did have a 97 black GMC Sonoma Highrider fully loaded about 4 years ago. I had a tremendous problem keeping it blemish free. I found that a professionally applied Teflon every 6 months and then a good waxing every month and a product called fast wax ever weekend helped a lot. Bug acids and the acids in bird crap seems to eat through just about everything eventually. Black paint it the most likely because it gets softer quicker than other lighter colors. I also carried a bottle of teflon cleaner (part terpentine) and a baby diaper in my truck. As soon as I noticed anything on it I was jumping out to clean it. Kinda **** retentive I guess but 3 years later people were asking me how I liked my new truck and how long did I have it.

I think I'm getting Black again for my Z

Good luck. Black is tough but when it's clean "It's clean"
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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tell me how your car turns out after the detailer...i called a store that specialized in selling car cleaning products and they told me once the crap sets in it's pretty there and no product will help...they said may pro buffing might help...but it seems useless so keep your eyes out for those droppings and remove them quickly...
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by jacen2y
tell me how your car turns out after the detailer...i called a store that specialized in selling car cleaning products and they told me once the crap sets in it's pretty there and no product will help...they said may pro buffing might help...but it seems useless so keep your eyes out for those droppings and remove them quickly...
My experience, too. The acid in bird crap is lethal for a car's finish. I couldn't drive one of my cars for about 3 months after some surgery several years ago and I had forgotten I had left big globs on my white hood. I just forgot. By the time I walked into the garage, I saw them and groaned, after cleaning the monsters off, I was left w/two 1 1/2" blisters under the bird crap. Repaint was the only remedy. By the way, the big purple berries glob is the worst of all. Use anything, but get it off ASAP. It can cause serious damage in less than an hour.

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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This talk about re-painting bird bombs just scares me!. No, your finish isn't ruined. Heres are the three easy steps you have to take. 1) Remove crap 2) Neutralize the acids/bases in paint. 3) Repair if needed.

Carry 2 small 8-oz srpitz bottles in that glove compartment behind the seats, and 2 small towels (or paper towels). When you see a bird bomb in the parkng lot, don't wait to get home. In one spritzer, have a quick detailing spray to use as a lubricant so you can GENTLY wipe away the crap with one towel. Next, spray the area with the second bottle, which is filled with isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) and a little water. When you let this sit on the stain for a min or two, it will neutralize the chemicals in the paint. Dab it up with the second towel... While this may take 2-min, it could save our finish.

When you can, inspect the car. If you have etching, you need to polish. Using the Porter Cable and some 3M "Machine Glaze" should take it right out. Just need to spot polish, dont have to do the whole panel. Then re wax/seal the area. Again, takes 5 min.

Also, whats great about having paper towels and Quick Detailer in you car at all times, is for quick window cleaning.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by Brad4rdHay
This talk about re-painting bird bombs just scares me!. No, your finish isn't ruined. Heres are the three easy steps you have to take. 1) Remove crap 2) Neutralize the acids/bases in paint. 3) Repair if needed.

Carry 2 small 8-oz srpitz bottles in that glove compartment behind the seats, and 2 small towels (or paper towels). When you see a bird bomb in the parkng lot, don't wait to get home. In one spritzer, have a quick detailing spray to use as a lubricant so you can GENTLY wipe away the crap with one towel. Next, spray the area with the second bottle, which is filled with isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) and a little water. When you let this sit on the stain for a min or two, it will neutralize the chemicals in the paint. Dab it up with the second towel... While this may take 2-min, it could save our finish.

When you can, inspect the car. If you have etching, you need to polish. Using the Porter Cable and some 3M "Machine Glaze" should take it right out. Just need to spot polish, dont have to do the whole panel. Then re wax/seal the area. Again, takes 5 min.

Also, whats great about having paper towels and Quick Detailer in you car at all times, is for quick window cleaning.
Excellent tips, Brad. I always carry a emergency kit and I will add your fixes to my kit.

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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What are some good soft paper towels that won't harm or scratch our finish? Shop towels? Extra thick Brauny etc??
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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If the specks you are talking about are yellow and about the size of the head of a straight pen or a bit smaller, that may be pollen that has been dropped by bees.

A friend's father works for the local environmental agency. The agency was trying to determine what this "fallout" was that people were complaining about. His agency is the one that determined it is pollen.

It is very difficult to remove.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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if u had a car cover this problem wouldnt have happened!
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Zmeflyby
if u had a car cover this problem wouldnt have happened!
Unfortunately, I can't put a car cover on the car each time I go somewhere. Can you see me at McDonald's putting my cover on to pick up my Big Mac??
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brad4rdHay
[B]This talk about re-painting bird bombs just scares me!. No, your finish isn't ruined. Heres are the three easy steps you have to take. 1) Remove crap 2) Neutralize the acids/bases in paint. 3) Repair if needed.

Thanks for the great tip Brad4rdHay.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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BTW, here's to all you birds out there, after tomorrow, have a great time crapping all over the lower 2 feet of my hood as well as my bumper. Needless to say, my clear Bra is going on this weekend.
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