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Old 05-18-2004, 03:34 PM
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zaino is great...the durability is unbeatable..the only thing it isnt great for is paint restration

the z5 simply isnt abrasive enough to fill in bad swirl marks like other products can...

none of are really concerned with that because we are talking about new cars with relatively new paint

i use zaino and i love it....there are prob other products that can give as good a shine or better...but nothing beats the protection
Old 05-18-2004, 03:40 PM
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another thing is that the performance of products differs with the color of paint it is used on
Old 05-18-2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Z4ToddB
I can tell you I have 5 coats on my PPW and noticed a difference for the better...it DOES shine a lot more and IMO makes the metallic specks pop. I'd agree with Bonz though, I think it works better on the darker colors. Bottomline- I'm extremely happy with the results-
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Thanks in advance
Old 05-18-2004, 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
60 Layers and Counting:
oh wow! i was a crystal guard guy....but that's AWESOME!

bonz....when will you be in boston. i'll give you all weekend to just sit there and put layer upon layer on my car. 10 bucks per layer....as many as you put on...i'll pay! haha! do you get a frequent buyer discount? if so....pick up some extra....i'll take a shipment!
Old 05-18-2004, 04:48 PM
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I have to say that after using Zaino for 5 years on 4 different cars I have to agree and disagree on a few points here. Personally I think after 5-10 coats there is virtually no dramatic benefit in terms of shine. However as far as protection goes, the more layers provide a nice smooth barrier against the elements. I think what's most addicting about Zaino is that silky feeling on the paint that seems to last forever. And the dirt seems to just glide off.

I think we are all crazy considering how expensive this stuff is and how much time we spend applying it. I find myself spending $50 every 2-3 months on this stuff, but my car looks like a showcar eventhough it's my daily driver and I park it outside.
Old 05-18-2004, 05:03 PM
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No frequent buyer discount here. I did manage to get Sal to donate two starter kits as raffle prizes for Z DayZ though.

I just don't understand how people can say that Zaino is expensive. If you are spending $50 every three months I think you are applying it WAY too thick.

I probably have more Zaino on my Z than anyone and in TWO YEARS have only spent about $150.00. Most of that was on Z-6 which you use a lot of and even though I had a ton of the old formula Z-2 and Z-5 left, when Sal came out with his new formula Z-2, and Z-5 I bought that.
Old 05-18-2004, 05:07 PM
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Sorry ISH, I had to add this.

I just realized that you said you use it on 4 different cars so I guess you wold be spending more than most people.

I have 60 layers on the Z
About 6 layers on my wife's Jeep
3 layers on my dad's Jag (I did it for his birthday)
and three layers on my sisters SLK.

Thats 72 total layers.

Try buying an "over the counter" wax and apply it 72 times and not spend a TON of money.
Old 05-18-2004, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
Sorry ISH, I had to add this.

I just realized that you said you use it on 4 different cars so I guess you wold be spending more than most people.

I have 60 layers on the Z
About 6 layers on my wife's Jeep
3 layers on my dad's Jag (I did it for his birthday)
and three layers on my sisters SLK.

Thats 72 total layers.

Try buying an "over the counter" wax and apply it 72 times and not spend a TON of money.
Let me clarify. My 04 350Z is currently the only car I own. The reason for going through 4 cars in the last five years is due to Nissan buying back my 03 350Z as part of a Lemon Law settlement which then followed with me buying a 04 TL which I couldn't stand driving so I traded it in and bought another Z. I guess I just couldn't stay away.

If you want more details check out my previous post:https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....9&goto=newpost
Old 05-18-2004, 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Bonz
No frequent buyer discount here. I did manage to get Sal to donate two starter kits as raffle prizes for Z DayZ though.

I just don't understand how people can say that Zaino is expensive. If you are spending $50 every three months I think you are applying it WAY too thick.

I probably have more Zaino on my Z than anyone and in TWO YEARS have only spent about $150.00. Most of that was on Z-6 which you use a lot of and even though I had a ton of the old formula Z-2 and Z-5 left, when Sal came out with his new formula Z-2, and Z-5 I bought that.

I think you're right. I might be applying it to thick but I think it's mainly because I clay twice a year, use ZXF with every application to speed up the curing time, and use an excessive amount of Z-7 to prevent swirls while washing.

I think I need to get help!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But hey now that I think about it, if I still had my 03 Z I could have challenged your record of 60 layers.
Old 05-18-2004, 05:35 PM
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I enjoy that "smooth as glass" feeling when I touch my paint. The California duster just seems to glide over the surface like a puck on an air hockey table
Old 05-18-2004, 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by ISH
use ZXF with every application to speed up the curing time
Money-saving hint: I have found that ZFX used at half of the recommended concentration works just as well. Similarly, you can water down Z6 half-& half & it works great too!

What the... who's that? Sal! SAL!!!! No, Sal, don't! I'm sor
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Old 05-19-2004, 06:16 AM
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MTL350z-
I've only got one picture handy right now, this one is with only one coat on it. This weekend I'll take some more with the 5 coats on- Hope it helps you decide, but it's hard to illustrate what I was saying about the specks popping...you kinda gotta see it in person in the sunlight- but here ya go!
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Old 05-19-2004, 08:03 AM
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Damn dude... that's some wicked orange peel you got going on!
Old 05-19-2004, 09:07 AM
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I think the picture makes it look worse than it is...I suck at resizing pictures, and it kept telling me it was too big before. But ya, I do have a little- although it really doesn't look too bad in person!
Old 05-19-2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Z4ToddB
I suck at resizing pictures
Try different software. Some software is better than others at resizing pics. MGI Photosuite (came with my digicam) does a good job.

If I really need to squeeze a pic (like for a sig logo) I find I have real good luck if I convert to .BMP then use MSPaint (of all things!) and use the Stretch/Skew function. Just reduce both axes by the same percentage, then convert back to .JPG. It seems like a lot of steps, but it works very well for squeezing tight without distorting.
Old 05-19-2004, 12:07 PM
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bhobson333-
Thanks for the info. I tried what you said in the below photo...I'll have to wait till it posts to see the results. Sorry everyone subscribed to this but- Here's a picture of the hood of my wifes 2000 SUV that had tons of swirls, scratches (small) and this is only one coat of Z-2, Z-5 and Z-6. I think this helps show how much better it works on darker colors-
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Old 05-19-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Z4ToddB
I tried what you said in the below photo...
That looks a lot better! For comparison, it would be cool to re-shrink that pic of the PPW & re-post. What kind of camera? How many megapixels?
Old 05-19-2004, 12:28 PM
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Its a Fuji Finepix (I think that's what its called) and it's 2.1mp. I tried the same on the first pic of my Z, here's the results!
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Old 05-19-2004, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Z4ToddB
I tried the same on the first pic of my Z, here's the results!
Much better!
Old 05-19-2004, 12:51 PM
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Thanks for schooling me on the computer skilz!
TB
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