drno

first of all, i have to admit i have used zaino for 4 yrs on 5 cars (none less than 10 coats) . now i ask myself ( and the rest of you the following questions )
1- if it is such a great product ,why do we apply it so often.?
2- do we really think that 50 coats is better thn 2 or 5 since after the first coat or 2 we are just polishing polish.
3 let us not forget --it is just a product(among many good products) , it should not be an obsession.
4- when show detailers apply polishes ,glazes ,
etc. with an orbital polisher what is this about only one way
application with towels made of unborn cotton?
5-lets face facts---zaino is not cheap , especially since you can't get it at the corner auto parts store.
6 - for me , zaino has 2 things going for it--easy on and easy off.

R.J._Vancouver

I`m a Zymol man :-)

aggiez

Well although I don't use Zaino, I think I can answer a few of your questions...

1. I apply wax often because I love the time I get to spend with my car. Between washing/waxing every square millimeter and tossing my Z around the racetrack there's no better way for me to get to know my car. That, and I love having a shiny car. A shiny car is a happy car, and a happy car runs better.

2. Polishing polish sounds good to me. I see a difference every time I wax. Even if I didn't I bet I'de still wax.

3. Its just a car too, but I bet you're obsessed with it...

4. Going back to getting to know my car. Wiping it down myself is so much more hands-on and personal, also easier to control than an orbital buffer.

5. My Z wasn't very cheap. Why would you skimp out on something you love?

6. Rock on.

Dr Bonz

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If you use Zaino the way it is supposed to be used, it IS cheap compared to other products. It may seem more expensive since you are comparing it bottle for bottle but you use significantly less of it than you do with other products. If you worked it out over the life of your bottle, it is cheaper.

drno

every man is entitled to his own misconceptions. since you probably hold the world's record for zaino applications your responce is certainly not without bias. i was not putting down the product ,just the cult mentality behind it-----i still use zaino but i don,t bow down to the zaino gods .

toykilla

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50 coats is not better than 5..sorry to burst your bubbles

Lexan

Yes, I think many Zaino folk are crazy

I used to use Zaino polishes but got tired of always ordering when I could run to the auto parts store and buy Zymol whenever I needed. I find it just as easy to apply and remove and it works great. Smells great too. It reminds me a lot of the Zaino polishes.

The only Zaino product I still use is the leather in a bottle conditioner. It works and smells great.

Dr Bonz

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It also is not without KNOWLEDGE either.

Call it BIAS if you want but to me (and to anyone who uses Zaino) it is a FACT.

Zymol is a decent product that has NO durability and offers NO protection.

Again, I have had both 5 and 50 layers and I have to disagree. Fifty may not be better than say 25 or 30 but I would say that 25 is better than 5.

You will get no arguement from me whatsoever on this point!

Dr Bonz

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I don't mean to argue here. I realize that my 60 layers is overkill. I have tried to explain it in the past but I think that this editorial I wrote for Frenzy says it best:

http://www.350zfrenzy.com/forum/view...ust_zayno_0803

drno

as one physician to another ( i am an ob/gyn ) i know the meaning of stress and the methods to relieve it. this discussion is not about this but a look at a product and an honest evaluation of it ( with like products in mind ) . i happen to dust all my cars 2x a day but i am not telling others to do so.

bhobson333

I have a little insight into your first two questions. Allow me to plagiarize myself from an earlier post in another thread:

Two or three coats of Zaino will give you a nice shine and protect your car. After that, a coat or two every four to six months is all you need to maintain a great shine and tight water beading.

However, if you continue to add coats, as good as it looked before each additional coat looks noticably better. Not just maybe, or it's all psychological, but every coat is a noticable improvement. Also, as you build a base and get better at it, the coats get easier and easier to apply.

It's classical conditioning: the action (putting on another coat of Zaino) results in reward (better-looking car) which reinforces the behavior and encourages you to repeat it.

I have a series of pictures taken over a period of around 6 months, one after every coat, total of 11 coats. Pictures don't really do a shine justice, but even in the pics you can see the finish getting better and better. For the ultimate results, see Dr. Bonz's car.

Hope that helps.

Dr Bonz

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And I'm not telling you or anyone else to apply 60 layers of Zaino either.

I gave you my opinion (based on a lot of experience, not just conjecture) on applying it in multiple layers and how I think it is beneficial to a point.

In reply to your statement that Zaino is more expensive than other products I also gave you my opinion (I could prove it to you with a lot of analysis and dollar figures and ounces...but I really don't feel like doing it) on why I do not believe Zaino is any more expensive than any other wax/polish mentioned on this board.

You say that this topic isn't about stress and how to releive it. I agree, but I mentioned it only in response to your statement regarding those who choose to be "obsessed" with Zaino. I was merely giving you my reason as to why it may seem like I am obsessed.

Dr Bonz

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60 Layers and Counting:

MTL350z

Holly mother of God
I think im gonna start using Zaino for my ppw from now on
Does it really show on white?

Dr Bonz

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Again, before I get slammed for posting an "altered" picture, I must again say that I bumped the contrast up on this pic using photoshop. It is a little trick I learned from Jim (who has posted some AMAZING pics of his LS Z "Marilyn").

As for the white, I'm sure it'll make it look good but Zaino seems to do more for darker colored cars.

Dr Bonz

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Here's another one I altered a bit with Pshop as well. I fooled with the color and contrast to bring out the reflectivity.

afr0puff

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The most Zaino I've had on my car at any given time was 12 coats. You ever see the Data Backup Solutions commercial where the guy knocks himself out on the table when his hand slips on the table? That was my car!!

MTL350z

Your car really looks amazing Dr bonz congrat and thanks for the reply

___DJK___

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Any product will make your car shine. Ive been pretty impressed with the durability of Zaino however when compared to other waxes/polishes.

Z4ToddB

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I can tell you I have 5 coats on my PPW and noticed a difference for the better...it DOES shine a lot more and IMO makes the metallic specks pop. I'd agree with Bonz though, I think it works better on the darker colors. Bottomline- I'm extremely happy with the results-
Regards
TB