I got my MT ET Streets on but could not get any decent burnouts done since I went violantly fish tailing every time.

Anyone have any advise how to keep the car straight during burnouts in order to get the tires hot enough?

 

have your handbrake up. when u start to go sideways let off the gas. if your not on drags then u dont need to burn out for long. u just need to get the dirt and whatnot off the tires.

 

Would NOT having an LSD fix that? Not that you would take it out, just curious because I accidentally peeled out the other day and just kept it going for maybe 20 feet because the car never felt like it was going sideways. It stayed rock solid going forward with very little steering input. It was a short burn out but it was fun.

 

I'm on slicks so I do need a full burnout.

not sure what pulling the handbreak would do for me

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't pulling the e-brake just waste the rear brakes and cause harm? I mean, you do realize that the e-brake pulls the rear brakes, right?

Pulling the e-brake works for most Honda's, as they are FWD.... not RWD like the Z

In this case, you need to lock the front tires NOT the rears tires. Which means you would need something that the old muscle cars use, a line lock.

However, this topic has been talked about many times without any succes, from what I've seen. We have tried it also, but the ABS kicks in, so in theory the line lock has to be modified before the ABS lines.

Anyway, what works for me is a simple heel-toe and shifting into second while steering the car, as it will move forward regardless.

 

yep, line lock would be nice but ABS is our enemy on that level. I have yet to find a shop that has done it on a Z

e-break is great on front wheel drives, I used to do great burnouts in my celi that way but not on rwd.

I don't mind moving forward but I was basically moving forwards sideways scaring the hell out of the launch guy...after a few times he relaxed since I was able to control the car but still...

Will I end up needing a stiffer suspension and if so which one?

 

I have ran over 100 times on the MT ETs with no problems doing a burnout.. Are you power braking or just dumping the clutch?? I can sit there all day and do a burnout if I want.. Check out my video on APS's website if you want...

 

Why will it not work on a Z ?

I have had a line lock on 2 cars that had abs and it worked fine ...

 

Line locks work fine... You just need 2 solenoids,... Nothing to do with the ABS, its because of the EBD- It has seperate lines for all for corners so you need to clamp the fornt lines after the computer... Thats all.. No big deal..

 

so how come no one is willing to install one??? I have talked to at least 5 experienced shops and I talked to Hurst and they all told me it's a major undertaking and they rather not do it...
I REALLY want to get a line lock done so if you know how and where please do tell.

In terms of the burnout, right now I rev to 5000 and drop the clutch, I get a good spin but the back immediately moves to the left and so I've been more busy trying to keep it straight then to focus on my feet.

Can you post exactly what you do in order to stay in place without fishtailing please
(btw, I tried with and without the stop light fuse, same deal)

 

E.T. Streets? You are not playing around anymore, huh? Anyways, you're gonna need to pull the fuse my friend. Once you have removed the fuse, proceed to the water box and roll on through that bad boy. Once you get the tires a little wet, put her in 2nd gear, rev as you have been and let the clutch go! Yes I said 2nd gear! As you are releasing the clutch, immediately get on the brakes. No need to push the brake pedal through the firewall. You just want to keep the car from moving forward until you see fit. Yes, this will cause some additional wear to the rear brakes, but not too much at all. With the tires spinning faster in 2nd gear and you on the brakes, the vehicle will not tail out anywhere near as much as you are experiencing now. You have to pull the fuse to get on the brake though. If you don't, the ECU will reduce power automatically and you will not get the tires spinning at all and more than likely stall.

I have two good friends running them on their 350 z's and you will love the 60' times out of them once you get everything right. One of my buddies hit a 1.6 on them and the other averages high 1.7's.

Good luck bro!

 

thanks man, that's what I needed to hear.

I did pull the fuse btw but I did not try 2nd gear I will do that on Thursday next track event...
I'm trying to get some good practise on slicks before the APS kit arrives

FYI: When I pulled the fuse on my 04 Track I immediately got a Cel and Slip light whenever I hit the throttle and break at the same time and the car actually shut off on me...now with the 05 enthusiast this is no longer a problem among several other annoying alarms such as the alarm when the tire pressure is below 28...now it only comes on once and then you just see the light...

 

make sure your wheel is straight and both tires have = water. do a quick spin in the water box. liek 2 wheel turns then get out of the water. just keep your wheels pointed down the track and your front brakes locked and no worries. a line lock would be cool, but i have never needed one over the years. it would help the rear brakes though

 

done12many2, you rule, dude...

2nd gear was the secret. I got good burnouts, no fishtailing standing nicely...
hit 8.9's on the 1/8 mile all night long (fully stock other than the slicks). Best 60' foot was a 2.059...I now need to work on my launches in order to get that down.

Thank you!!!

 

I am really glad that worked out for you bro. I think you'll be hitting some 1.6's and 1.7's before you know it!

 

Launch at higher rpm(if you think your clutch can handle it). Try disconnecting the front swaybar also. What psi are you running the tires at? I've gone down as low as 10.5 in a 16x11.5x16 Et Street.

 

Will disconnecting the swaybar assist in weight transfer? Sounds like something I might want to try! How much time does it take to do? Something that can be done at the track and then reversed to drive home?

 

I had originally disconnected mine at the track but I ran with it disconnected for a few months till I got around to putting it back on. I just used some electrical tape to wrap it to the suspension so it wasn't dangling around. You could disco and reconnect it the same night if you wanted, I was simply too lazy. Just don't go flying around any corners with it disconnected till you get a feel for the way it handles without it.

 

I am running at 16 psi right now. I have the JWT Clutch and Flywheel and enforced Axles, so launching at higher RPMS's shouldn't be an issue, but it seems to be bogging down everytime I go above 4300, I need to figure out on how to release the clutch better I guess.
I will try lowering the tire pressue some more as well

 

mrtomcat, congrats bro! Well, it seems that So. Cali is finally gonna get its share of drag 350z... consumer level anyway. Well, I'll definitly see you next Thurs. at Irwindale.

To everyone else who has contributed to this post, thank you too! (regardless of this not being my post. )