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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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On the 350Z......

Provided that the exhaust, tires, and manifolds are the same (or as close as possible), what are the average 1/4 mile times for Turbo vs Supercharger (belt driven) vs Nitrous ??

From studying this forum it looks like:

NA = 14.0 seconds
Nitrous (100 shot) = 13.0 seconds
Belt Superchargers = 13.5 seconds
Turbo = 12.7 - 13.3 seconds

I'm sure there are exceptions, but speaking in AVERAGE comparisons what would you rank them in terms of 1/4 mile times ?
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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I personally am doing nitrous for my 1/4 mile times. Its ALOT more customizable for drag use as where you can make it kick in at different levels each gear so you dont spin in first and parts of 2nd. Also superchargers i feel are a waste for drag use they get horrible times. Turbo setups are really great but when using street tires you spin like mad when you launch. Also without forged internals ide say you would be better off running nitrous. Just my opinion, ide like to hear other peoples.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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turbo is 11.6 - 13.3...

and I'd say turbo because it's the easiest to expand due to tuneability, followed by Nitrous
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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this thread is funny....
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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this thread is stupid!!!
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
turbo is 11.6 - 13.3...

and I'd say turbo because it's the easiest to expand due to tuneability, followed by Nitrous

11.6??? When have you seen a turbo on stock internals run 11.6???? I doubt you've seen it run in Cali.

Realisticaly out here in Cali, the fastest stock internals turbo is 12.9.... and that was just one time.

Nitrous is easy to tune also. Changing jet sizes and adjusting AFR is not that hard. You have to remember that just because the manufacturer susgests a specific jet combo, it doesn't mean you have to follow it. You can always put the car on a dyno and adjust the nitrous jet to a larger size in comparison to the fuel jet.

Sooo my vote goes for nitrous. When done correctly, it's more cost effective and DOES give you the best bang for your buck.

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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here's an example

https://my350z.com/forum/drag/121519-new-mrc-aps-stock-block-record-11-60-119-13-a.html

no one has said anything about California, but I'm more than sure you can hit similar runs out here.

IGOTTAZ run several 12.9's last time at Cali speedway. Based on his coming upgrades he'll do better in august and I'm sure I'll do close to 11's as well.
Alpine ran 8.1's at Irwindale which translates into 12.5 and he ran on street tires
so I'm not sure why you think you won't be able to do better than 12.9 on a stock motor....
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Yeah, I've seen that post before.

However, the thread asks for "average", which unfortunately that does not represent the average Turbo Z's are running. Don't get me wrong, its a valid run that anyone would love to have, but its not average.

If anything, I would probably agree with 12.7-13.3 as average, wouldn't you agree?
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my point being there are several turbos hitting 11 seconds on stock engines and superchargers are nowhere near that...
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Originally Posted by mjedens
this thread is stupid!!!
Originally Posted by jackie chan
this thread is funny....
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
my point being there are several turbos hitting 11 seconds on stock engines and superchargers are nowhere near that...
first off you should NOT look at ET for power output look at traps people lay down.


and about superchargers not putting down the numbers?

try running a smaller pulley with a SC that flows CFM close to the list come with and see what happens. hell run 12-14 pound pulley if the head unit cant handle the turbine rpm see about upgrading to an s trim or somthing bigger


apples to peanuts

BTW everyone here on the bottle is in the 12s or 11s

averaging is a horrible way to judge. that takes into account all the **** pooor drivers. if you want averages you must consider yourself an average driver only capable of duplicating those times.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nastyboy
11.6??? When have you seen a turbo on stock internals run 11.6???? I doubt you've seen it run in Cali.

Realisticaly out here in Cali, the fastest stock internals turbo is 12.9.... and that was just one time.

Nitrous is easy to tune also. Changing jet sizes and adjusting AFR is not that hard. You have to remember that just because the manufacturer susgests a specific jet combo, it doesn't mean you have to follow it. You can always put the car on a dyno and adjust the nitrous jet to a larger size in comparison to the fuel jet.

Sooo my vote goes for nitrous. When done correctly, it's more cost effective and DOES give you the best bang for your buck.

-Nasty
I have run a 11.60, 11.62, 11.63, 11.66, 11.67, 11.70, and about 20 other 11.7-11.9 runs on my bone stock block, heads, and even plenum..!! My track of choice is at sea level however, my 11.63 run came at Z day a few weeks ago in 95 degree weather... I will be installed my APS plenum this week and hitting the track soon, hopefully in cooler weather to break my 11.60 record!!
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Oh, and my partner use to run 12.4-12.6 on the procharger and 12.8's on a 100 NOS setup...
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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I didn't know they were selling thier plenums already. You will have to give us a review.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jax350z
I didn't know they were selling thier plenums already. You will have to give us a review.
Heres a sneak peak... And there are a bunch in NJ ;-) I am in the process of polishing mine so it won't be on for a week probably... Plus we are getting some powdercoated....
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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is that a good gain N/A?

i am going to do full boltons on my GF's Z 14s is too slow for her after going to the track and seeing the 12 second cars run
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by one3502nv
Heres a sneak peak... And there are a bunch in NJ ;-) I am in the process of polishing mine so it won't be on for a week probably... Plus we are getting some powdercoated....
I fail to see how that unit differs from a Crawford plenum....looks nice..but seems like it uses the same principle as the Crawford.
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Originally Posted by 95snoozer
is that a good gain N/A?

i am going to do full boltons on my GF's Z 14s is too slow for her after going to the track and seeing the 12 second cars run
14s??? Teach her to drive first...
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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auto = 14s

she hasnt bought hers yet but i want her to get a stick, so i have tried to teach her. I took her out in mine and she did great for a first timer. never stallled my car. my clutch has 50+ pounds of pedal pressure too.

after seeing the stock Zs put down **** times at the track she was like "your going to have to mod mine so it isnt so slow." the stock zs there ran a 14.7 at 98 and a 14.6 at 95. they got out and congradulated eachother on their times. My Gf laugh at them for being proud of it. She understands the relation of traps and ET and good driving or traction. Ive told her the stick is a mid high 13 second car stock with me driving depending on the car.
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Originally Posted by 95snoozer
auto = 14s
don't tell domZ or johnsilvZ that...they'll tell you that they hammer on 6-speed Z's on a regular basis..
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