Maybe It will be out soon....

 

+100

 

The dead of summer is always slow. The weather sucks so most people going to the track aren't running personal bests so they don't bother to post, and alot of people don't even bother going because they are in the midst of changing things. It goes in cycles... winter = mods, spring = track, summer = mods, fall = track, and the cycle goes on and on and on.

 

I dunno, I'm kinda fond of my 9 second street car...
It did make the drive from Reynolds Georgia back to Orlando last spring and got roughly 22 mpg ... no overdrive
It sure doesn't have the comforts of my 350z though .. A/C, power steering, power brakes, etc.
It is just a matter of time before the 350z follows in it's path. I can only have one expensive project at a time!!

 

i agree as well, too bad thats not what i am building.

well, then how will you feel about a 9 second street car then, hey Z Gad, you saw my car, did it look like a full race car, nope not at all. it still has full air conditioning, full radio, full front interior in it, full dash, heater, everything, it pretty much looks just like your Z and i will drive it everyday on the street if i wish....


also Z Gad, i always hear about your car but never see ya out, there is another yellow one that runs around but its not yours. looking forward to hanging one day and showing the supra and TT Ford GT guys whats up!!


one more thing, i have a turbo 400 sitting here at my house with adapter plates, flex plate and new tranny mount, i have a three speed reverse pattern manual VB, i heard that is pretty much the same tranny you are running, how is it on the street. just curious, my plan is to go 9.99 here soon with 20 psi and 150-200 shot under 12 psi, we will see what happens for sure.... thanks man!!!!

 

All depends on how you guys define "street car". If you'll be driving it all over the place whenever you want with all the comfort features in place....yea, I'd like that.

But, if you're talking a thinly disguised race car that fills up on race fuel and makes a street appearance once in a blue moon.......nope.

Is it a 9 second car now, or does it aspire to be?

I mean no disrespect (since the definition of "street car" means many things to many people) and I am friends with a few local guys with some very fast/powerful TT350Z's (and have great respect for them), but last I saw you were more than a second slower than my measly bolt-on Cobra. And it's apparent we have a different opinion on comfort levels and the definition of "street car" when I had previously seen you mention:

"i am the king of lightened cars!!


lightweight battery will save you about 30 pounds, stock is about 40 and little racing on weighs 11 pounds.

airbags are actually heavy as well as the stock steering wheel. you could easily save 40 pounds with both of them taken out.

i dont have powersteering which all weighed around 40 pounds

you can cut down 10 pounds a rim of unsprung weight with no issues,

my tanabe lightweight single full exhaust weighs 18 pounds, stock is around 60 pounds, i forget but i weighed it....

factory seats weigh, 49 driver and 47 passenger, you can cut down 30 pounds out of this combo with racing seats (not CF seats, even more with those)

a great way of weight savings is to take and gut the car, then put back what needs to be in there, nissan LOVES to use 18 brackets for one thing, a lot of these can be taken out along with a lot of steel mounting brackets under the dash

i have had all the plastic gutted out from the front seats back, believe it or not it all adds up to a lot of weight.

remove all horns, windsheild wiper and weight in trunk, all window washing components, bumper reinforcements (if you are crazy like me) etc

i had my Z weighing 2780 daily driving weight with both seats in and the cab looked stock....

good luck and hope i help out some people, my car weighs 2920 koyo and greddy tt kit...."

I'm thinking more along the lines of a car like Alberto, BriGuyMax, BigBri, etc. (from a streetability standpoint). Again, no disrepect intended, just my opinion on "street cars" and the ones that impress me.

Z-Gad's car (although the TH400 makes it suspect) is closer to what I'm thinking.

 

oh i am saying what i plan on doing, nothing done yet, the motor and everything has been built for a while, just getting that power to the ground the correct way and not breaking stuff has been the issue, these are just my realistic short term goals that will on held back by shattered parts all over the track. my car will have full interior from the seats forward, air, radio everything....


it will have an 8 point cage in it but a few real street cars have it, i know tons of american muscle cars that are way more extreme that are driven around all the time. i have only put 1500-1600 miles on my Z since October so i dont drive that much anyways, i work too much. i will be driving it to the track, swapping on my slicks and having people talking for sure...

i will run around on pump gas all the time and might bring some C16 with me one day for fun. basically , it will be a street Z with a cage and TH400 (which many cars drive around on all day)

 

I hear ya, that sounds alot closer to what I consider a "Street Car".

I always ask myself if I think their car is a "Street" car or a "Streetable" car. My level of admiration goes WAY up if it's a "Street" car.

Good Luck with your project!

P.S. - From personal experience, I felt my Grand National crossed the line from "Street" car to "Streetable" car when I swapped out the 200R4 overdrive trans for a TH400.

 

yes, as far as taking weight out of cars, yes, i have taken out everything and weighed it, its actually a joke about it with my friends, i was helping out the autocross guys who were asking about weights in the reference you copied and pasted above.


to me, a street car is a car that is "driven" to and from the track, no trailers, also driven around whenever you want. my car sits most of the time.


just curious what your cobra with bolt ons was running, last time i went to the track, having major clutch issues, (the start of all this mess) i was running 12.0s at 120 launching at 1800-2000 with the tires i drive around on the street with just testing out how fast i could get it to trap just driving there and pulling up and running, nothing serious. i was messing around with the utec and timing and tuning it there. never launched hard, just rolled out of the gate. 2.0-2.2 60 foot times. that was all done at 13 psi with major clutch slipping, it wouldnt build over 8 pounds of boost in 4th and 5th gear, not enough load. so you bolt on cobra does 11.0s thats impressive!!!

 

ok, i see what you mean now, yes, i will be in between a street car and a streetable car, i see what you are getting at, i drive it to the store, to my PO Box, to the car meets, to the saturday night hang outs, to dinner with my girl, and to the track


glad to see what you were gettin at, i will take lots of pics here very soon, this is what it looks like and will stay looking like, but it will just have a 8 point cage in it...

 

Very Nice! And I'm glad you didn't take my comments the wrong way. After all it's just my opinion.

.....and you reminded me to update my sig.....hey, a few hundreths is a few hundreths.

 

im a very opinionated person as well, i understand that on the internet, its very easy to take someones opinion as them trying to be a dick, for example.. look at everything Alberto says!!

i just dont want to be deemed a full race car yet, i will just name myself "street driven"

that sums it up!!


thanks and i will post up pics when i get the cage back and get everything in for sure, will be in the FI section!!

 

Your car looks like the average 350z (aside from the one big exhaust!!).

I make it out occasionally, but lately I have been having to spend a lot of time in south Florida. Again, tomorrow I will have to be in Ft Lauderdale at 11am. Hopefully, I'll be able to be back tomorrow night, as I need to get out and test the car. I just have a little more wiring to do and I shouild be ready to test. If I am here this weekend, I will be out Saturday night at OSW to make some test passes. I'll post on this thread if I can make it. I may have to be down there for a few days though. I'll know more tomorrow when I get there.

Regarding the TH400, I have a forward pattern manual valve body and ratchet shifter. Around town, I can just put it in drive and it will shift all the gears for me. At the track, I put it in ratchet mode and manually hit the gears, otherwise it would shift too soon...

BTW gnxs - I like GN's too :-)

 

cool man, i chose a manual valve body cause it was less parts to go wrong, the auto VB needed a constant vacuum line to work correctly and i wanted the reverse pattern so i made the choice for manual. hopefully i will have it up and running in less than three weeks and start making some noise!!

 

You've got a very nice (and fast) ride.

As far as the TH400 goes (mine was full manual, reverse pattern with a TB), it wasn't the manual VB that made it unstreetable (for me), in fact I liked the manual VB on the street. It was the fact that it only had 3 gears and I had 4.10's in the rear. Even after I dropped down to 3.73's, it was still too many revs on the interstate (my Buick motor redlined at ~5,700 ). Cruising the Garden State Parkway at 3,200 rpms just to keep up with traffic wasn't what I thought of as a street car, even though many people would certainly consider it "streetable". While the TH400 was a cool trans, I regretted ever taking out the 200R4.

Surprisingly, for it also went faster with the 200R4/4.10 combo than it did with the TH400/3.73 combo.

 

thanks for the info, for now i will have the stock 3.54 gears so it will still be ok, i drive around all the time in fifth gear in my Z cause i can never get used to having a 6th gear

everyone that rides with me is like, "man, will you shift into 6th!!"

i will be going from our 6MT to a fast shifting clutchless transmission, it should help me more than the tranny/ rear gear combo on your set up i hope...

we will find out, the few people who have done the swap havent really posted any info or experiences so i am just diving in head first !! shouldnt be too bad though...


yeah i have a 3200-3600 stall and a transbrake, so we will see what happens!!

 

What's gonna happen is that with a good tire it's gonna launch like a SCALDED ANIMAL.

 

yeah i was pulling low 1.6s with stock block, tranny and clutch just with slicks and 150 shot, so with this new setup, transbrake, stall , possible a nice two step or studderbox, a 200 shot and 20 PSI.... well.... you are correct!!!!

i just want a nice pic with both fronts yanked!!

 

LOL Jeremy, your posts are so energetic I can imagine you being a spaz in person...

 

its funny, my car is the only thing in the world that actually gets me excited. i am pretty tame and chill most of the time... i swear, drag racing, girls, nu metal, punk rock, skating, wakeboarding/wakeskating, and some hardcore would sum up my life. overall, if you ask anyone, im pretty quiet