ACEMAN

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Hey Guys,

I have a question and a concern when it comes to the 07's in the Bolt on list.

We all know they are a much stronger engine from the factory then the older VQ35DE engines.

SO, my question is... Should we have a Bolt-on list just for the 07's? Because as it is now the 07's are running faster times STOCK then most are running with Bolt-ons. Once they have Bolt-on they will be bumping most of the older engines off of the list and then the list will be mainly the 07's.

When it comes to FI or Nitrous i dont see this as big of a issue.

What is everyone thoughts on this, please discuss.

Let me know

Todd

singh

iTrader: (2)

We should have a bolt-on list for the 07's just to keep things comparable. Also, that way we can see the improved engine 'OWN' the VQDE.

Bumpinjeep

iTrader: (3)

Please have a bolt on list on the 07s Thanks

__jb

iTrader: (3)

I agree.

Now aceman will have to buy more trophies...

davidv

iTrader: (2)

The 2007 stock pushed me from #9 to #13. No big deal.

For the all-motor class, the 2007 will be a challenge. What I think you will see is that the 2007 is difficult to improve. The bump in all-motor is 13.77 seconds. I see the modified 2007 making the bump, but not decimating the entire class. Besides, I look forward to competing against the 2007.

For the time being leave it alone.

ACEMAN

iTrader: (29)

I know its going to take time for mods to come out for the new engine, but factor in just one thing ( slicks, Dr's ). If Veetec can run a 13.3 with stock tires, what do you think will happen with Slicks and nothing else? Then they start changing other parts ( pullies, flywheels, final drive, heads, cams, intake ) you see where i am going with this.

Just thought i would get everyones opinions before i make or not make the change. This thread was put together for the community and i want to make sure everyone who cares can voice their opinion on the matter.

I just wanted to start this thread now, before more people get bumped off of the Bolt-on list.

Thanks for everyones opinions thus far...

Later
Todd

davidv

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I forgot about the 2007 with slicks. Good point.

3hree5ive0ero

iTrader: (95)

I personally don't care, as I don't see them as a threat just yet. However, for the sake of others, I'd recommend having a new class just for the HR engines.

Todd, if anything, we should just create a separate list in the same post. So in the same post it shows 2 different rankings list - 1 for DEs and 1 for HRs.

Playboy's Z

i agree with making a separate list i like knowing what the original z vq is running vs the new one.

Peak350

iTrader: (6)

I think that a separate list between DR's, full slicks, and street tires would be the best thing. Slicks will pull more off than the HR motor does.

When I've run I've thought I could get more out of the car, but its temperature and traction thats limiting me. Slicks would pull almost .6 off my run...easily if the car didn't bog (wouldn't with a good launch). So I don't think a .2-.3 tenth difference justifies the separation.

jdifolco

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Doesn't bother me. A separate list wouldn't be a bad idea, I say do it

davidv

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Im think we have too many lists now. An example is Nitrous. Nitrous is stagnant. The numbers remain the same. No one moves. No one competes. Its boring.

Peak350

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Well - I think a single/dual turbo combination, even a if it was a general FI would be better.

Ultimately I'm only using the list to make a general comparison between my car and others and conditions vary enough that I already know where I stand.

I still say DR's/slicks are the biggest advantage. At the track here cars with DR's get lane choice so I usually get the slower lane (my best run was ironically in the slow lane ) meaning less chance of a great run.

Thats just my opinion though, yours may be different.

trey.hutcheson

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I say create a separate list, but my motives are not benevolent. I'm at #23 right now. I'm already at a disadvantage to the other cars due to my weight penalty(g35 sedan). Once the 07s start making the modded list, I'm toast.

Hell, my full bolt-ons with DR's sedan is slower than the top 6 guys in the Stock list.

VeeTec

I'm for a seperate list.

I know the GTO guys have a seperate list for the LS1 versus the LS2. I think the HR motor should have it's own list stock and with bolt ons.

jdifolco

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agreed. Its makes sense. What about the the rev up. Is that not to much of a change to require a new list as well?

bacalhau16

iTrader: (32)

I dont see why there shouldnt be a seperate list. The motors are that different, and its obvious. There are still so many new members that are purchasing 03-06 Z's that would like to compare their cars to the list. If the list fills up with a bunch of 07's, its not a good comparison for them any longer.

Hraesvelg

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definitely change the list when the Z gets the 3.7L... might keep it the same for now and play it by ear. The Z did gain a few pounds didn't it?

turismo

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I say do it. Makes it more interesting.