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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
Stock 07 Z versus modified Cobalt SS, with pulley, intake, exhaust, programmer, etc.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=czHbeF9-qZo

that cobalt didnt even put up a fight!
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
If you are an experienced racer, then you know not to underestimate any car.
That's the best advice given so far. Nothing is constant as far as modding goes.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilvia
i retract my statement.......coblat ss is sh1tty unless highly modified
lmfao good one bud.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx
Well a simple stage I upgrade for a couple hundred bucks will increase the cobalt from 205hp to 236. Step up to stage II for not too much more money and you'll get 241hp. Intake and exhuast should be good for another 10hp. So stock no he wouldn't have taken you, stage I or II it would have been a toss up, if he has other bolt ons like the intake and exhuast he could very easily have a chance at walking your 350z. Now in a drag race the 350z should have the advantage simply due to it being RWD; but he was talking about a rolling start on the hwy

People rag on the 4cyl FI cars out there but you have to realize that stock they aren't far off from the 350z and secondly it takes very little money to make them faster than the 350z. Thats why I'm surprised Nissan hasn't made a 20k FI 4cyl car instead of the SE-R. While the SE-R isn't bad it can't compete with the likes of the SRT-4, cobalt SS, and WRX. Hopefully he'll show at the track and you can tell us the outcome
what about the evo
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nareg
what about the evo
I don't think *smart* people rag on the Evo.

David just about hit it on the head... but the most important thing to not underestimate is the driver.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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evo and sti FTW......
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Zilvia
evo and sti FTW......

+1. I was looking really hard at an STI before I bought my Z. I want one bad, but the dealers weren't wanting to work with me on pricing so I said **** it and bought a Z.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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You will beat. My friend has an 06 ss with just and intake and my 350z is STOCK. I never raced him off a stop, but off a roll in second gear I get him by 4 cars and keep pulling!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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My friend with the 06 cobalt with just an intake runs a 14.4 in the 1/4 mile!
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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FWD = bad 60fts.... they can and have run low 14s...but they trap 101+ mph depending.... from a roll against a stock Z I think it would be a very close race.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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evo will win...unless you encounter what i did and the evo has a bad driver..... bad driver ftl
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
FWD = bad 60fts.... they can and have run low 14s...but they trap 101+ mph depending.... from a roll against a stock Z I think it would be a very close race.
No. Stock Cobalts trap high 98's, and won't pull any year Z from a roll or a dig. Z will walk it, no problem.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by VitViper
No. Stock Cobalts trap high 98's, and won't pull any year Z from a roll or a dig. Z will walk it, no problem.
You're right...I've seen a few trap 100 ~ 101 at cordova but come to think of it no one was above that and a few were in the 90s...
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
You're right...I've seen a few trap 100 ~ 101 at cordova but come to think of it no one was above that and a few were in the 90s...
And a lot of it is the driver/track conditions. Tracks that the cobalts run low 14's on are the tracks the 03-06 Z's are easily capable of high 13's.

And what are we comparing? Street tire vs street tire? If you take a 03-06 Z with street tires vs a Cobalt on DR's then sure, from a dig it might be close (Z still wins tho). From a roll? The cobalt has a very peaky powerband -- Z pulls no problem.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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A friend has a gm stage 2 kit, intake and exhuast. From a roll it's me with a car from 40 kick(n/a with drop in filter, y pipe, spacer and test pipes)... at the drag strip he runs 13.7-14.2 from 100-103mph.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx
Well a simple stage I upgrade for a couple hundred bucks will increase the cobalt from 205hp to 236. Step up to stage II for not too much more money and you'll get 241hp. Intake and exhuast should be good for another 10hp. So stock no he wouldn't have taken you, stage I or II it would have been a toss up, if he has other bolt ons like the intake and exhuast he could very easily have a chance at walking your 350z. Now in a drag race the 350z should have the advantage simply due to it being RWD; but he was talking about a rolling start on the hwy

People rag on the 4cyl FI cars out there but you have to realize that stock they aren't far off from the 350z and secondly it takes very little money to make them faster than the 350z. Thats why I'm surprised Nissan hasn't made a 20k FI 4cyl car instead of the SE-R. While the SE-R isn't bad it can't compete with the likes of the SRT-4, cobalt SS, and WRX. Hopefully he'll show at the track and you can tell us the outcome
Cobalt ss is the worst out of all other FI 4 bangers. I destroyed a modified Cobalt SS when I was stock. He had a full exhaust,intake, upgraded pulley and a reprogram. I was very disappointed, I really thought it was gonna be a good race.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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I'm sorry this thread is just ironic to me. When my car was in to get me assist cylinder on the clutch, they gave me an AT cobalt, tho not an ss. I was soooooooooooooooo pissed. But after driving that and reading this I dont see wtd GM could do to make it feel like a sportscar, even a sports sedan at that.

I kissed my Z when I finally got it back. Never fail people want to **** with you when your in the rental and not in your super doper sportscar.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ercharged.html
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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So this

"205 bhp @ 5600 rpm"

thats all the fuss?
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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GM Performance makes stages of upgrades for it... I've got a friend with one, and I've ridden in it. He had a stage two upgrade, whatever's involved with that. It was less than satisfying. My Z would kill it any day.

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