you friend has skills

 

Can't see why not?

 

I don't know... I've seen a lot of G37 info and nothing is even close to that... the ET is believable given the 60ft but the MPH doesn't match up...

Will have to wait until move G37s start posting results but unless we are talking -3000DA I will have to remain skeptical. Their curb weight is very close to mine (i am a little lighter I believe) and I can't imagine they put down more than 300rwhp (which is where I am).. with the 350Z it makes sense.. less rwhp but less weight as well... wait and see... I can't see that being the norm. Honestly this will probably be the only car to come close period which cast even more doubt on it.

 

Damn, Pittsburgh raceway park, I should line up against this guy if those times are accurate.. I have yet to race there, The track closed a couple of weeks ago.. those numbers seem really good...

 

Yes, the ET is believable but the Trap is insane... Most G37 trap around 102-103 even at DA close to 0. Base on the date he provided and the track location the DA was around 480FT. One of my buddy did ran this weekend at ETown with DA of -275FT and only trapped 102mph..

 

His time means nothing unless validated at another track. If he can run better than 13.5 and trap 105mph at Englishtown then I'll say he's got something special. Right now, I think that timeslip is 90% Pittsburgh raceway's fault.

 

/\ By the way he said went to a different track and did 13.5 at 104mph. I'm still waiting for him to show me that slip.

 

The short times on both of the runs you posted are pretty much impossible to achieve for a stock car.

I don't think the 13.3 is really that questionable, but the short time is too good for stock VQ with stock tires.

The trap on the 12 second run also seems way too high for a stock car. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't match up to the ET.


I'd love to see this guy's video, though. Although his numbers aren't impossible, it is hard to believe. I'm not taking away from his ability to get it down the drag strip well at all, though.

 

If its true thats awesome, even if it isn't stock thats still great for N/A.

 

That is what I told him. 108.4mph trap is good for mid 12's, if he already got a 1.69 60' then how much more can he squeeze to get to mid 12's. His ET and Trap doesnt add up...

 

1.69 60 ft = high 12's with avg shifting, but if you can nail 60ft's like that you should be a good driver everywhere. Ive seen weirder things its unikely but I dont think the guy is lying. Fast tracks with nice DA can do weird things

 

He said the DA was 480'. That's not nice enough to land 108+ mph.

 

I don't think anybody thinks he's lying. But that time is really not representative of what the average is for that car. Even with a really good driver on most sea level tracks, that time is pretty much impossible to achieve. Again, for the 100th time, if he goes to Englishtown or Atco, he ain't running anything close to those times, even on drag radials or slicks.

 

A 1.83 60' is completely possible,even on street tires, but considering he is running drag radials I would think he could pull even better.

Edit- I missed the 1.69 60', that sounds right for drag radials.

 

1.83 is pretty much impossible in cold weather and on stock tires. The drag radials 60' is a lot more doable.
The most ridiculous thing about the timeslip though is the 108mph trap speed. Yeah right.
IMO that track's timing equipment ought to be calibrated asap.

 

That's what I was thinking...my 108 traps were -3xx DA and track elevation of 632 ft.

As I said I am ~310rwhp and 3571lbs... the G37 is ~280rwhp (??) and 3616. (that's curb...add drivers, I'm 155lbs)

I dunno..if he can duplicate it somewhere else then he has a freak but if not someone needds to fix their timing equipment.

now if the 3.7L makes it into the 350Z then this will just be a normal timeslip (minus that 60ft of course... 1.9~2.0 and those et/traps.

 

I'll be skeptical until I see a timeslip...I have personally seen some of the best guys launch their Z's perfectly and pull 1.5's and 1.6's but those guys were spraying 100-150 shots of N20 right from the launch and putting down 400 and 500 tq. They were launching at 5500+ on DR's. I just don't see a bone stock G doing that. We all know Bert can launch his car and he was putting down 1.6's on his old setup.

 

Until I see a video of the said car/driver, I'm going to say that something(s) is very off.

 

Like many have pointed out, it's the trap speeds and 60 foots that aren't making sense here. I've been around drag racing for well 15 years now and I understand what cars can and can't do when it comes to traction and power to weight. A 3700lb, 275whp car with fairly weak torque curve (about 220whq) simply doesn't have enough juice to go 108mph. 104mph on really good day with sea level or sub sea level, maybe. It takes a 3,300lb 98-02 Z28 6MT about 305whp/310wtq to get 108mph traps and that's is EXCEPTIONAL air. 105-106mph is the norm. The power to weight differences are about 10.8:1 for the Z28 and 13.5:1 for the G37 coupe. Trap speed IS the indication of available HP to the wheels. End of story. The argument that gearing plays a role is BS because cars like the G or Z have nearly perfect gearing from the factory. This isn't like 2 speed Powerglide.

Then there's the 60 foot. A 1.83 60' on factory 18" to 19" tires? No way. Not possible, even with the most insane track prep. A 1.95 might be possible in the best scenario, a 2.0 would be exceptional, a 2.1 typical, and a 2.2 normal. A 1.69 60' on DRs, especially 18" DR, ain't happening. A 1.69 60' on full blown 26" slicks and a lighter 350Z (3200-3300lb) and I'd say totally believable. But a 1.69 60' on 18" DRs, a 3700lb car, and 220wtq? Nope. If it was a 1.8 60' on slicks then it's believeable, but again under great conditions and prep.

One of more of the following things offer explanation here:

1) They're lying and posting some other cars slips
2) The guy was getting the wrong slips
3) There's something wrong with the track timing equipment

IMO, someone's lying. Those slips look VERY much like what you'd see from an LS1 F-body.

I'm not a magazine racer, but I've seen more than 4 tests of 6MT and 5AT G37 coupes. They're solid 13.9-14.2@101-103mph cars in the hands of magazine drivers and those time ARE CORRECTED TO SEA LEVEL CONDITIONS. I've contended for years that you can take to the strip and under the right conditions, can beat mag times by around .3 seconds and 2mph. Most people run slower times than those posted by the mags, but there are always a handful exceeding mag times due to great DA, great driving, launch, and lighter setups (low fuel, no spare, etc). It all helps.

My point is the G37 coupe doesn't have enough left of the table to add 5 to 6mph and drop .5 to .7 seconds, regardless of driving or conditions.

 

/\ I agree with this. Look at the over all 1/4 list and the only guys that are getting lower than 1.7 60 are cars that have well over 400whp. I even posted the same list on MYG37.com and he said some of the guys on that list are pathetic with their launch...