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Old 03-06-2011, 08:11 PM
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Default What gear to heat up tires in the waterbox?..1st or 2nd

I am going to the track this year with some MT's and I was wondering if you guys do the burnout in 1st or 2nd gear? Yes, I will have my brake light fuse removed. I have the stock 3.5 gear. I'm a bit hesitant to just rev my car and drop the clutch in 2nd gear but I think this is the one you would want to use. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Heat up what tires? Street? Forget it.

In the water box?

Manual transmission - remove brake light fuse? What for?

Do you have any experience drag racing?
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Originally Posted by davidv
Heat up what tires? Street? Forget it.

In the water box?

Manual transmission - remove brake light fuse? What for?

Do you have any experience drag racing?
1.No, Mickey Thompson ET Streets
2.Water box at the drag strip, ya know, the guy with the garden hose...
3.From what I understand if you hit the brake while hitting the gas on our cars it cuts power. Search "Brake Boosting" if you need more info on this one but I think you have been around long enough to know what I'm talking about. Do you?
4. Yes, do you?
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
1.No, Mickey Thompson ET Streets
2.Water box at the drag strip, ya know, the guy with the garden hose...
3.From what I understand if you hit the brake while hitting the gas on our cars it cuts power. Search "Brake Boosting" if you need more info on this one but I think you have been around long enough to know what I'm talking about. Do you?
4. Yes, do you?
I don't think he has any clue.

I've only ever been on street tires at the strip (never had traction issues...haven't gone since turbos though) so I wouldn't know. But good to the brake fuse and My advice would be trial and error. Try a first gear, and see if they get hot enough, fast enough. They will reach same temp I would assume, just take longer. So if you want faster heat up I'd say 2nd. But I'd also wait for someone with heating up tire exp to reply.
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Yes, you will need to pull the brake light fuse.
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
1.No, Mickey Thompson ET Streets
2.Water box at the drag strip, ya know, the guy with the garden hose...
3.From what I understand if you hit the brake while hitting the gas on our cars it cuts power. Search "Brake Boosting" if you need more info on this one but I think you have been around long enough to know what I'm talking about. Do you?
4. Yes, do you?
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OH davidv you're going to let him say that?!?!
























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1st gear burnouts work for me.
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
1.No, Mickey Thompson ET Streets
2.Water box at the drag strip, ya know, the guy with the garden hose...
3.From what I understand if you hit the brake while hitting the gas on our cars it cuts power. Search "Brake Boosting" if you need more info on this one but I think you have been around long enough to know what I'm talking about. Do you?
4. Yes, do you?
My name is listed here twice:
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840...ons-stock.html

On the other hand your name is listed, well let me see, that would be jack.
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They way I do it is to do a quick spin as you come through the water box to get the whole tire wet and get the gravel and debris off the tire. Then pull up a foot or so and apply the brake and burn it up. 1st is usually good enough. It helps if you have a friend who can watch the tires and tell you when its smoked up enough. On the first burn out of the day you need to do a pretty good smoky burn out to get the oldish dried out rubber off the tire. Then after that just spin them so they haze light smoke for around two seconds or so.
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Originally Posted by davidv
My name is listed here twice:
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840...ons-stock.html

On the other hand your name is listed, well let me see, that would be jack.
Cool and I have videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ezPkdBjEg
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
They way I do it is to do a quick spin as you come through the water box to get the whole tire wet and get the gravel and debris off the tire. Then pull up a foot or so and apply the brake and burn it up. 1st is usually good enough. It helps if you have a friend who can watch the tires and tell you when its smoked up enough. On the first burn out of the day you need to do a pretty good smoky burn out to get the oldish dried out rubber off the tire. Then after that just spin them so they haze light smoke for around two seconds or so.
Sounds like first gear will do the job then. I have some friends that do them in 2nd gear so I wanted to ask, but they have mustangs with 3.73 gears so it works pretty well for them. Thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp
Nice driving. You now have permission to slap me silly for doubting your skills.
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And this was my first run ever, hence the reason I got the Mickey Thompsons. I lost to the Corvette Z06 in this run but he only hit 107 on his best run of the night and I hit 113 on my second (with a 13.3 time) and only other run (video above) but I had to baby the launch and shift slow to keep the tires from breaking loose so there is way more in the car. Hoping to hit 116-117 and hopefully be in the low 12s with these tires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pzyr...eature=related
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Originally Posted by davidv
Nice driving. You now have permission to slap me silly for doubting your skills.
Thanks man!
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NA 1st gear

FI 2nd gear

If you have 418whp, with an easy 1.960ft and 114-115mph worth of trap, you should be 11's in a Z if you can shift.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
NA 1st gear

FI 2nd gear

If you have 418whp, with an easy 1.960ft and 114-115mph worth of trap, you should be 11's in a Z if you can shift.
Shifting won't be a problem. I'm pretty sure you have seem my videos in the past Alberto so I'd hope you agree. Guess it's up to me to hit 11s though as yes the car is capable of it. I know of at least two on here with my same setup and same whp who have hit 11s (oldmanZ and tyler). I'll have to try both 1st and 2nd gear but it sounds like 2nd is fine with FI. It just feels weird to rev and drop a clutch in anything other than 1st gear but I will try it.
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There is no extra stress on the drivetrain because the tires spin intially, so its not like you are launching on warm tires in 2nd gear, dotn worry about that.
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Yeah you should be able to break 11's with a good 60' and that HP.
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
They way I do it is to do a quick spin as you come through the water box to get the whole tire wet and get the gravel and debris off the tire. Then pull up a foot or so and apply the brake and burn it up. 1st is usually good enough. It helps if you have a friend who can watch the tires and tell you when its smoked up enough. On the first burn out of the day you need to do a pretty good smoky burn out to get the oldish dried out rubber off the tire. Then after that just spin them so they haze light smoke for around two seconds or so.
^this is the correct answer! Having someone to stage you makes life easier as well.


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