FS: BNIB: South Bend DXD Stage 2 Daily Clutch for HR
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BNIB: South Bend DXD Stage 2 Daily Clutch for HR
Bought this back at the beginning of October but never got the chance to install it before putting the Z up for sale. My loss is your gain!
$350 shipped in mainland U.S. Price is obo, but be reasonable please!
Shipping from Franklin, Ohio
Thanks for looking!
$350 shipped in mainland U.S. Price is obo, but be reasonable please!
Shipping from Franklin, Ohio
Thanks for looking!
The # you have there on the box is NOT for an HR..The HR kits have a *B* inserted:
SBC Part # NSK1000B-HD-O
That is a kit for 2003-2006
SBC Part # NSK1000-HD-O
EDITED:
THIS DOES FIT BOTH THE HR AND THE DE
EXPLANATION GIVEN IN SUBSEQUENT POST
SBC Part # NSK1000B-HD-O
That is a kit for 2003-2006
SBC Part # NSK1000-HD-O
EDITED:
THIS DOES FIT BOTH THE HR AND THE DE
EXPLANATION GIVEN IN SUBSEQUENT POST
Last edited by ronn1; Nov 8, 2012 at 01:24 PM.
If you're gonna sell this..you need to straighten this out. How could they sell you the wrong one if you specified an HR? Thing is..you would never know and once installed, your CSC would eventually fail because the fingers on the Pressure Plates are different.
It will not cause the CSC to fail, All South Bend kits have been updated over 2 years ago to work perfectly with the DE, HR or VHR cars. They all use the same kit.
The only thing that will cause the slave to fail is the stock slave, Its junk and should never be used with an aftermarket clutch. Has nothing to do with finger design but more to do with seal design and slave construction. Very early JWT kits were the only ones that had issues with the finger design, The hole was too big in the diaphragm spring and the slave bearing could possibly work its way through the fingers and over extend blowing out the slave. They fixed this issue way back. South Bend never had this issue as they used a different style pressure plate with longer fingers and bearing contact was not an issue.
A "B" in the clutch part number has absolutely nothing to do with what it fits. The "B" is actually which disk material the kit uses. "B" would mean it is a ceramic kit of some sort.
"O" Organic, "B" ceramic, "OFE" Organic/Feramic dual friction Ect.
The NSK-1000"B" on South Bends website simply means it doesnt come with a throw out bearing as the HR doesn't need it because it is part of the CSC assy.
We worked very closely with South Bend Clutch as we have for over 10 years designing the Z car kits, We know a thing or 2
Anyone looking to purchase this kit, Jump on it, Great Deal!
Last edited by ZSpeedPerformance; Nov 5, 2012 at 07:37 PM.
You are WAY off.
It will not cause the CSC to fail, All South Bend kits have been updated over 2 years ago to work perfectly with the DE, HR or VHR cars. They all use the same kit.
The only thing that will cause the slave to fail is the stock slave, Its junk and should never be used with an aftermarket clutch. Has nothing to do with finger design but more to do with seal design and slave construction. Very early JWT kits were the only ones that had issues with the finger design, The hole was too big in the diaphragm spring and the slave bearing could possibly work its way through the fingers and over extend blowing out the slave. They fixed this issue way back. South Bend never had this issue as they used a different style pressure plate with longer fingers and bearing contact was not an issue.
A "B" in the clutch part number has absolutely nothing to do with what it fits. The "B" is actually which disk material the kit uses. "B" would mean it is a ceramic kit of some sort.
"O" Organic, "B" ceramic, "OFE" Organic/Feramic dual friction Ect.
The NSK-1000"B" on South Bends website simply means it doesnt come with a throw out bearing as the HR doesn't need it because it is part of the CSC assy.
We worked very closely with South Bend Clutch as we have for over 10 years designing the Z car kits, We know a thing or 2
Anyone looking to purchase this kit, Jump on it, Great Deal!
It will not cause the CSC to fail, All South Bend kits have been updated over 2 years ago to work perfectly with the DE, HR or VHR cars. They all use the same kit.
The only thing that will cause the slave to fail is the stock slave, Its junk and should never be used with an aftermarket clutch. Has nothing to do with finger design but more to do with seal design and slave construction. Very early JWT kits were the only ones that had issues with the finger design, The hole was too big in the diaphragm spring and the slave bearing could possibly work its way through the fingers and over extend blowing out the slave. They fixed this issue way back. South Bend never had this issue as they used a different style pressure plate with longer fingers and bearing contact was not an issue.
A "B" in the clutch part number has absolutely nothing to do with what it fits. The "B" is actually which disk material the kit uses. "B" would mean it is a ceramic kit of some sort.
"O" Organic, "B" ceramic, "OFE" Organic/Feramic dual friction Ect.
The NSK-1000"B" on South Bends website simply means it doesnt come with a throw out bearing as the HR doesn't need it because it is part of the CSC assy.
We worked very closely with South Bend Clutch as we have for over 10 years designing the Z car kits, We know a thing or 2
Anyone looking to purchase this kit, Jump on it, Great Deal!
Then I stand corrected. Just makes no sense. They should just use the same # and sell/add the TOB separately.
We designed all the kits with South Bend and have done so for over 10 years. We do know what we are talking about.
The kits are identical, The B at the end of the 1000 simply means it doesn't come with a release bearing as it is part of the slave cylinder.
All DE and HR South Bend kits use the same finger design and have for quite sometime and both are plenty long enough to work with the stock slave or our HD slave kit, I would not ever recommend using the stock slave with any aftermarket clutch.
The kits are identical, The B at the end of the 1000 simply means it doesn't come with a release bearing as it is part of the slave cylinder.
All DE and HR South Bend kits use the same finger design and have for quite sometime and both are plenty long enough to work with the stock slave or our HD slave kit, I would not ever recommend using the stock slave with any aftermarket clutch.
You are WRONG my friend...very wrong.
I want you to take a CLOSE look at the DE vs HR #s here:
http://www.dxdracingclutches.com/html/350z.html
You'll notice that there is a *B* after ALL the *1000* #s with the ALL HR kits!
Now click on the DE kits:
There is NO *B* following ALL the *1000* #s!
That's because the PP are different!
The STOCK CSC will fail (stock) with a DE PP because the fingers are not long enough! It will NOT fail with SB HR kit because they made the fingers long enough on those. The problem with EARLIER kits was that the PP did NOT properly mate with the CSC of the HRS and they failed because of this. This is all HISTORY and discussed here on the forum.
I want you to take a CLOSE look at the DE vs HR #s here:
http://www.dxdracingclutches.com/html/350z.html
You'll notice that there is a *B* after ALL the *1000* #s with the ALL HR kits!
Now click on the DE kits:
There is NO *B* following ALL the *1000* #s!
That's because the PP are different!
The STOCK CSC will fail (stock) with a DE PP because the fingers are not long enough! It will NOT fail with SB HR kit because they made the fingers long enough on those. The problem with EARLIER kits was that the PP did NOT properly mate with the CSC of the HRS and they failed because of this. This is all HISTORY and discussed here on the forum.
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We designed all the kits with South Bend and have done so for over 10 years. We do know what we are talking about.
The kits are identical, The B at the end of the 1000 simply means it doesn't come with a release bearing as it is part of the slave cylinder.
All DE and HR South Bend kits use the same finger design and have for quite sometime and both are plenty long enough to work with the stock slave or our HD slave kit, I would not ever recommend using the stock slave with any aftermarket clutch.
The kits are identical, The B at the end of the 1000 simply means it doesn't come with a release bearing as it is part of the slave cylinder.
All DE and HR South Bend kits use the same finger design and have for quite sometime and both are plenty long enough to work with the stock slave or our HD slave kit, I would not ever recommend using the stock slave with any aftermarket clutch.
Ok..why won't the stock CSC (now revised..same as that in 370Z) work with aftermarket PP?
I think I found the answer>>>>BEARING LOAD
https://my350z.com/forum/8632711-post48.html
Last edited by ronn1; Nov 6, 2012 at 01:34 AM.
Thanks for all the clarification.
Ok..why won't the stock CSC (now revised..same as that in 370Z) work with aftermarket PP?
I think I found the answer>>>>BEARING LOAD
https://my350z.com/forum/8632711-post48.html
Ok..why won't the stock CSC (now revised..same as that in 370Z) work with aftermarket PP?
I think I found the answer>>>>BEARING LOAD
https://my350z.com/forum/8632711-post48.html
All the slaves from 07-up 350HR and the 370Z are the same wimpy piece of plastic. Thats why we came out with the HD version. The bearing loads rise as clamp loads rise, You can't modify a self adjusting pressure plate for more clamp load to hold more power.
Correct, Bearing load = pressure at the slave which is what makes the slave "SEAL" fail or the entire plastic housing will just snap off.
All the slaves from 07-up 350HR and the 370Z are the same wimpy piece of plastic. Thats why we came out with the HD version. The bearing loads rise as clamp loads rise, You can't modify a self adjusting pressure plate for more clamp load to hold more power.
All the slaves from 07-up 350HR and the 370Z are the same wimpy piece of plastic. Thats why we came out with the HD version. The bearing loads rise as clamp loads rise, You can't modify a self adjusting pressure plate for more clamp load to hold more power.
Also remember that the stock pressure plate will only accept a 240MM disk whereas the DE pressure plate will accept either 240mm disk or the 250mm disk which will hold much more power. All South Bend kits come with a 250mm Disk
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