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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I am looking to lower my Z. I don’t want to go low just close the gap. I want to run on stock struts for awhile and I am looking at springs because of the lower spring rate. I am looking for around a 1 inch drop. I have looked at a tein s type and a eibach prokit. I have been doing research regarding camber issues with a 1 inch drop. Some say its fine no camber kit needed, other say if you value your tires you need it.

My question is, do any of you have a 0.5-1.2 inch drop, did you do a camper kit, if not have you noticed tire wear.

If you need a camber kit with a 1nch drop is a camber bolt sufficient or is a camber arm needed.

What camber kit is a good one for a 1 inch, I was recommended a kit by SPC sold by eibach link http://www.spcperformance.com/PROD_D...d2=72050&cmd3=

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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I have the Eibach prokit which drops just over an inch once it settles in.
It says camber kit not needed, but when I took my wheels off for winter I noticed my rears are starting to wear a little unevenly. I'm installing the camber kit ASAP, for both tire life and rear grip.
My camber kit isn't installed yet, but I did get SPC.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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sorry, there are no hitch kits I know of to tow a camper with the Z.


look into this:
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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you're lucky the mods don't look here as often. you really should just check the technical forums for details. there's a wealth of information available with a simple search.
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sorry, there are no hitch kits I know of to tow a camper with the Z.


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you're lucky the mods don't look here as often. you really should just check the technical forums for details. there's a wealth of information available with a simple search.
I did, like I mentioned. I have read many posts. been to 3-4 performance shops, ive even called Eibachs tech line. I have searched, I was told I do not need it by Eibach, other have said you should.

I had 2 answers, I wanted you know what other people on here in my area have done.

I think your comment was unnecessary.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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When in doubt, ask in the Useless East Canada thread. Nothing you do or say will be used against you in the useless thread. I pop in there all the time and am like "yo wtf is with this part" etc.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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I was on Tanabe GF210 for 2 years (with stock shocks) and had NO camber issues (off the top of my head the drop is 1.0/1.2)

I was on pilot sports tho, which aren't as soft as the stock tires...maybe that helped

my GF210's are up for sale now too if you're interested
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i am on pilots from a G35 right now
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Originally Posted by 2TH PWR
I have the Eibach prokit which drops just over an inch once it settles in.
It says camber kit not needed, but when I took my wheels off for winter I noticed my rears are starting to wear a little unevenly. I'm installing the camber kit ASAP, for both tire life and rear grip.
My camber kit isn't installed yet, but I did get SPC.
Did the car settle evenly or did you cut the rear ruber mount to even the car. (from what I understand you can cut it to make the car lower)

what did the kit cost you, i was quoted arund $250 and $340 for the springs

Mine has a 2 finger gap at the front and 3 at the rear right now. I have read that it is normal for the Z to be higher in the rear
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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I have the GF210's. I waited a month to put on my SPC rear camber and Toe kit. my camber and toe was so out of whack my rear tires were severely showing cord on the inner tire. A costly mistake that made me need 2 new Toyo's to replace the tires on the car that had less than 2000 miles on them. The camber kit is a cheap insurance buy I would recommend.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by XERMAN2001
Did the car settle evenly or did you cut the rear ruber mount to even the car. (from what I understand you can cut it to make the car lower)

what did the kit cost you, i was quoted arund $250 and $340 for the springs

Mine has a 2 finger gap at the front and 3 at the rear right now. I have read that it is normal for the Z to be higher in the rear
I didn't cut the mount. The car did settle evenly to my knowledge, but it certainly looks like more than an inch. I wish I could be more scientific, but I didn't do measurements. It is normal for a stock Z to be higher in the rear, and the Eibach kit will drop the rear a little more than the front to even it out.

I paid like $400 I think, but this was back in tha day yo.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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$400 for the springs, what did you pay for the camber kit?

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Sounds like I am buying the camber kit then.

anymore with more input is welcome
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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camber kit was pretty cheap. Like 180? I can never remember dude. Let me check. Reality350 had the same set up. You can check with him too. His name is Church.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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$180 i was quoted around $250, if i can get it for $180 that would be great
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Originally Posted by XERMAN2001
I did, like I mentioned. I have read many posts. been to 3-4 performance shops, ive even called Eibachs tech line. I have searched, I was told I do not need it by Eibach, other have said you should.

I had 2 answers, I wanted you know what other people on here in my area have done.

I think your comment was unnecessary.
i don't think you did. I searched for "camber drop" and found a thread with info saying that anything 0.8" drop would need camber arms to fix it.

if you searched for "eibach camber" you get a ton of hits. Shabz even already mentioned he needed camber arms to fix his alignment from his eibach sportlines.

seeing how my 5 minute search yielded all the info you needed, my comment was completely necessary.
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I got them here. https://my350z.com/forum/suspension/314467-___-spc-camber-kit-front-and-rear-holiday-blowout-save-your-tires-and-___.html
189 shipped I think?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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thanks

how much were the border fees, duty, tax, brokerage? ect
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by noodleman
i don't think you did. I searched for "camber drop" and found a thread with info saying that anything 0.8" drop would need camber arms to fix it.

if you searched for "eibach camber" you get a ton of hits. Shabz even already mentioned he needed camber arms to fix his alignment from his eibach sportlines.

seeing how my 5 minute search yielded all the info you needed, my comment was completely necessary.
sportline is lower, I am not looking at that it because it would need the camber and its harder on the stock struts

I did a search and I read this post https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....=eibach+camber there’s like 4 people in there had the prokit with no camber, people keep asking and they say no.

Eibachs tech said no, but others said yes

I wanted to know what YOU Ontario people have, you don’t need to jump all over me. I understand that you are now trying to defend your comment, as I am I. So why don’t we just say that maybe you should not have said it. And I could have flipped a coin to decide who is right in the posts I read. If it was needed or not.

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i *was* trying to get you some friendly advice before you get flamed to death. I was more than polite in letting you know to do some simple searches to come up with your answer. If you think I was "jumping all over you", you shouldn't make any threads outside of East Canada.

Here's a question for you. Do these eibach springs work differently in canada? Is that why you need opinions from Canadians instead of the main forums where people have already shared their experience?

If you spend more than 5 minutes doing some searches here, you'd know that when you get to about an inch drop, it really depends on the specific case to see if camber arms are needed. Sometimes maxing out the arms works, sometimes it doesn't.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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oh and back to my searching, one of the shops I went to to get pricing on part and info on what I should do was Simone Performance Imports here is Newmarket where I live. I spoke with Steve and Vic, I was told by other people that Vic has done allot with Nissans racing cars and they know there stuff. I asked them about the camber kit, the said they I should do it. They are also going to order the springs for me and do the alignment afterwards.

http://www.simoneperformance.com/

I have searched, I was looking for what other people have done


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Think were at a stalemate here mate.

To be honest the reason I posted in the east section is because I thought I would be more likely to get a response than In the tech area.

While suffing on e46.com beamer forum I was asking about the differences between models. This was after doing as much searching as a could, I had the information I was just looking to get it confirmed and determine if I understood it correctly. So I posted in the main forum and asked my question, said that I have searched already and not too tell me to use the search button as I have seen do to many other newbees before. A few people responded to me but a few people said to use the search button even after I mentioned not to say that and that I have done so already. I tired posting In the Toronto area of the forum and I found that they were a closer group of people and were more welcoming of me and my questions. This is why I asked in your east chat. I thought that I would not just be another post that would be overlooked and forgotten in a day and given more respect.

I do understand that you want people to search. I see people on my old j-body forum telling the newbees to search all of the time. The Newbees come on and ask a question like “can you put a sunfire front end on a cavalier” now everyone that has been a member more than a year knows that answer and 10 people have asked that same question in the same month. The older members get tired of the new ones asking the same questions and then they don’t want to waste there time answering them. The get mad because if the new people would have searched they would have found the information on their own,

Now me already knowing this I have done my best to answer the questions I have on my own through searches to avoid this situation from happening to me. I have honestly tried my best to find the answer this question and all of the other questions I have asked. I know how much time I have spent searching and then feel insulted when you make comments like these.

I am just trying to help you understand my point of view

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