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Old 12-19-2004, 09:33 AM
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What strut bar would you recommend to accommodate a Crawford Plenum?

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Old 12-19-2004, 11:07 AM
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JIC makes a real nice carbon fiber one that fits, or just go with the Crawford one its less expensive. but you do have to modify your engine cover with the Crawford.
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whoa, i didnt know the cf jic one fit...i thought u could only use the crawford one or the stillen one.
so only the jic cf one fits? how about the aluminun jic one?
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No, the JIC won't fit, at least not from what I've seen. The JIC one is flatter than stock, but wider, and gets in the way still. I'm not sure if you can space the strut bar up a little and clear?????
(with washers or what not)
Old 12-20-2004, 09:47 AM
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only one that fits AFAIK is Crawford and I suspect Stillen might as well
Old 12-20-2004, 02:17 PM
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None of the current strut bars help us poor Vortech/Crawford folks...
Old 12-20-2004, 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Tony@Performance
No, the JIC won't fit, at least not from what I've seen. The JIC one is flatter than stock, but wider, and gets in the way still. I'm not sure if you can space the strut bar up a little and clear?????
(with washers or what not)
That won't work.. My JIC bar rubs up slightly againt the hood already (there are marks on the bar)..

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Old 12-21-2004, 11:32 AM
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i've heard something about the craw hittin the hood, too. i think it was just a one bar thing though. i'll probly still go with one of theirs.
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The design of the Crawford strut bar isn't really good because of the brackets they use to move the strut mounts forward. This design will flex at the mounts and would not add very much torsional rigidity. I suppose it's better than not having anything, but just don't expect it do much.
Old 12-22-2004, 11:20 AM
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so get a stillen?
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Originally posted by spf4000
The design of the Crawford strut bar isn't really good because of the brackets they use to move the strut mounts forward. This design will flex at the mounts and would not add very much torsional rigidity. I suppose it's better than not having anything, but just don't expect it do much.
The bar was the only part of the car unscathed after this....
He was able to put it on the new car that replaced this one!
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by spf4000
The design of the Crawford strut bar isn't really good because of the brackets they use to move the strut mounts forward. This design will flex at the mounts and would not add very much torsional rigidity. I suppose it's better than not having anything, but just don't expect it do much.
FYI, our bar vs the stock is actually stiffer.

With our design the "mounts" will not flex. Had a thinner guage of steel been used, it may have been more likely. However the design is using thicker parts than even stock!

Did you notice the stock bar already has an expansive curve in it? Yikes! Talk about a structional flaw!

This is high-school physics, which is stronger... a straight bar or a bent?

If anyone is in the area, feel free to come down to the shop and take a look yourself.
Old 12-22-2004, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixINX
FYI, our bar vs the stock is actually stiffer.

With our design the "mounts" will not flex. Had a thinner guage of steel been used, it may have been more likely. However the design is using thicker parts than even stock!

Did you notice the stock bar already has an expansive curve in it? Yikes! Talk about a structional flaw!

This is high-school physics, which is stronger... a straight bar or a bent?

If anyone is in the area, feel free to come down to the shop and take a look yourself.
You know this argument is going to go on forever until you put both in something that can measure the "crush resistance" of both and prove it. I tend to believe that yours is stronger though...
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Originally posted by teh215
You know this argument is going to go on forever until you put both in something that can measure the "crush resistance" of both and prove it. I tend to believe that yours is stronger though...
We did!!!

Our bar held past 10k psi, however the OEM started bending at far less.
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Our race team tested the OEM STB / JIC / GREDDY / GT-SPEC...

They still use the OEM...

Havent tested any of the plenum accomidating STB's yet...
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I know, it sucks!!!

They won't let ANY of the Grand Am cars change out their plenums!!!! WTF?!?!
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anybody's craw bar hittin their hood? thanks.
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i need a strut bar in the worst way....Crawford one wont fit over the HKS and stock wont fit over the Crawford plenum. Suggestions anyone?
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Get a new hood with more room? then put some washers under the strut bar to raise it slightly?

--mike
Old 12-23-2004, 01:15 PM
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BigShow-

I had the Crawford bar before I installed the Vortech. It touched the hood and made marks. I have looked at other people's hoods and they all had marks from the Crawford bar as well.


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