Notices
Engine & Drivetrain VQ Power and Delivery

Got it Dyno'd! Does this sound right?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 03:06 PM
  #1  
Mantis3024's Avatar
Mantis3024
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,844
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
Default Got it Dyno'd! Does this sound right?

Did 3 runs on the dyno today with the Z. best is 252.9 whp and 239.4 ft/lbs. Does that sound right? I've seen a lot of other stock Zs dyno around 230-240. Also, Integrity came too (stock also) and got ~249whp.
Attached Thumbnails Got it Dyno'd! Does this sound right?-dyno-stock-3.19.05.jpg  
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 03:58 PM
  #2  
sentry65's Avatar
sentry65
the burninator
Premier Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 9,722
Likes: 2
From: phoenix, AZ
Default

people are dynoing all over the place

It seems like people on the east coast generally dyno higher than people on the west coast.

I've seen 220whp -256whp on stock manual Z's
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 04:00 PM
  #3  
Brandon@Forged's Avatar
Brandon@Forged
Sponsor
Forged Internals.com
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,566
Likes: 1
From: Valdosta, GA
Default

Originally Posted by sentry65
people are dynoing all over the place

It seems like people on the east coast generally dyno higher than people on the west coast.

I've seen 220whp -256whp on stock manual Z's
I agree...
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #4  
Spider883's Avatar
Spider883
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach, Fl
Default

My stock was 235whp and 230wtq. that was in the heat of summer in florida and 3k miles on it
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 02:17 AM
  #5  
Monsta's Avatar
Monsta
New Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,749
Likes: 261
From: Ft Campbell KY
Default

Thoses are some good numbers.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 02:29 AM
  #6  
Armitage's Avatar
Armitage
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,163
Likes: 3
From: North Jersey
Default

Couple of things:

1) You dyno'd on a Dynopack. Those generally dyno higher because they bolt directly to
the hubs, not taking into account the loss of power from the wheels.
2) I can't tell from the pic you provided, but were the numbers SAE corrected? If not, that will inflate numbers as well.
3) What gear did you dyno in? Manuals should be 5th, auto's 4th.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 04:02 AM
  #7  
FairladyZ's Avatar
FairladyZ
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,407
Likes: 0
From: Allen, TX
Default

What was the correction factor on the dyno?
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 12:43 PM
  #8  
triax's Avatar
triax
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Raleigh, NC
Default

don't forget...east coast regularly gets 93 octane vs 91 on west coast for premium.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 12:48 PM
  #9  
homiusang's Avatar
homiusang
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 893
Likes: 0
From: Stockton, CA
Default

I guess your #s sounds about right on a Dynopack?
I dyno'd my bone stock Z at 256whp and 244tq (SAE Corrected) on a dynojet
Edit: Dyno is done with 91 oct gas and 5th gear (In case anyone asks)

Last edited by homiusang; Mar 20, 2005 at 12:51 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 01:00 PM
  #10  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Here are my numbers...

249.0 HP SAE @ 6149 rpms
246.6 ft/lbs. @ 4742 rpms

We both have M6s and the runs were done in 4th gear, not fifth.

I believe the correction factor was 1.00.

Can someone explain to me how these effected my readings?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:05 PM
  #11  
xephiron's Avatar
xephiron
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Hoover, Alabama
Default

Not trying to flame... but honestly if the west coast guys are really upset with 91 octane then why not add octane boost to your gas? I mean atleast for a night at the drag strip or a trip to the dyno. If it helps, cool... if not, no harm done. Lucas Octane Boost is $9 per bottle at Advanced Auto Parts and is 3x the legal limit of performance additives. Not even "street legal" and it will get you up to atleast a 93 octane equivalent, especially if you only add it to about a 1/2 tank of gas.

Try it, maybe it helps.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 06:16 PM
  #12  
350Zteve's Avatar
350Zteve
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,432
Likes: 2
From: So. Cal.
Default

A while back, Turbo Magazine did a dyno test where the took a bone stock Z to 6 different dynos in SoCal in the same day. Here are the numbers they got.

Turbo Magazine Dyno Dash Comparison Chart

Dyno HP TQ
Dynapack 249.4 242.8
DTS 257.6 556.5*
Dynojet (Win) 235.8 227.8
Dynojet (DOS) 243.7 237.2
Clayton 265.7 240.6
Super Flow 228.9 226.6
*measured at roller without accounting for gear reduction
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:08 PM
  #13  
copba1t's Avatar
copba1t
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 289
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Originally Posted by xephiron
Not trying to flame... but honestly if the west coast guys are really upset with 91 octane then why not add octane boost to your gas? I mean atleast for a night at the drag strip or a trip to the dyno. If it helps, cool... if not, no harm done. Lucas Octane Boost is $9 per bottle at Advanced Auto Parts and is 3x the legal limit of performance additives. Not even "street legal" and it will get you up to atleast a 93 octane equivalent, especially if you only add it to about a 1/2 tank of gas.

Try it, maybe it helps.
Who is really upset about 91 octane? I just saw a couple mention is a possible difference between all the numbers people are seeing. You must be reading a different thread than I am
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:50 PM
  #14  
Armitage's Avatar
Armitage
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,163
Likes: 3
From: North Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by 350Zteve
A while back, Turbo Magazine did a dyno test where the took a bone stock Z to 6 different dynos in SoCal in the same day. Here are the numbers they got.

Turbo Magazine Dyno Dash Comparison Chart

Dyno HP TQ
Dynapack 249.4 242.8
DTS 257.6 556.5*
Dynojet (Win) 235.8 227.8
Dynojet (DOS) 243.7 237.2
Clayton 265.7 240.6
Super Flow 228.9 226.6
*measured at roller without accounting for gear reduction
I bet if you had a Dynojet in Linux, it would produce even better results.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:33 PM
  #15  
xephiron's Avatar
xephiron
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Hoover, Alabama
Default

Originally Posted by copba1t
Who is really upset about 91 octane? I just saw a couple mention is a possible difference between all the numbers people are seeing. You must be reading a different thread than I am
Not just on this thread, it shows up very often on multiple threads regarding dynos and 1/4 mile runs. Was just a suggestion to attempt to correct the problems instead of using it as as crutch when your car doesn't out perform everyone else . I mean, OMG it can't be the driver? nah

I agree, 91 octane doesn't max out this 10.3:1 compression engine, so why not boost it with an additive ... atleast to make sure.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 11:01 AM
  #16  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by 350Zteve
A while back, Turbo Magazine did a dyno test where the took a bone stock Z to 6 different dynos in SoCal in the same day. Here are the numbers they got.

Turbo Magazine Dyno Dash Comparison Chart

Dyno HP TQ
Dynapack 249.4 242.8
DTS 257.6 556.5*
Dynojet (Win) 235.8 227.8
Dynojet (DOS) 243.7 237.2
Clayton 265.7 240.6
Super Flow 228.9 226.6
*measured at roller without accounting for gear reduction
Ok, cool. So my numbers are right on then. So did Turbo Magazine take 6 different Zs to all of those dynos, or are all those numbers from the same Z? 228.9 to 265.7 is a huge gap.

Also, can somebody explain what the correction factor does? Thanks.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 11:30 AM
  #17  
Deceit's Avatar
Deceit
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: Ocean NJ
Default

Dynapak dynos do tend to read higher.

Here in the east coast, we can get anything from 93, 94 (sunoco).. i've even seen sunocos carry 100 unleaded pump.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:43 AM
  #18  
bascelik's Avatar
bascelik
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Default

350Z for US market has timing setup for 91oct gasoline. Putting in 93oct should do nothing, unless you can advance timing. Its the case of setting things up for the lowest common denominator. For those who think it'll make a diff, take a stock Z, put some 100oct race gas (unleaded) into it, and see if there is a diff on a dyno. I'll guess at a very small diff, except car may run smoother from run to run.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:29 PM
  #19  
Integrity's Avatar
Integrity
Banned
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,028
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by bascelik
350Z for US market has timing setup for 91oct gasoline. Putting in 93oct should do nothing, unless you can advance timing. Its the case of setting things up for the lowest common denominator. For those who think it'll make a diff, take a stock Z, put some 100oct race gas (unleaded) into it, and see if there is a diff on a dyno. I'll guess at a very small diff, except car may run smoother from run to run.
Interesting. So I can advance my timing a bit and unlock some free horsepower? I only use 93 octane.

(I'm not trying to be a smart @ss, this is a serious question)
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 03:30 PM
  #20  
Armitage's Avatar
Armitage
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,163
Likes: 3
From: North Jersey
Default

Isn't the timing advanced or retarded automatically because of CVTC? ( I think thats how you spell it). I know the original VQ has this on the Intake side and the new engine has it on both the Intake and Exhaust side. If so, the computer should compensate for the higher octane fuel and result in slightly more power.

Just my .02 / thinking out loud.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:56 PM.