I am going to replace my clutch with something else besides stock... I've read some stuff about the Tilton full street setup with the flywheel, is it a lot louder than stock setup? What is the weight differences between the JWT and tilton or any other brand that you guys might recomend? I need something for the street with good power gains. I don't mind a bit more noise or getting use to clutch.

 

Also, to add on to the question...does anyone one also know the weight of nismo clutch/flywheel package.

 

Yes.

Basic rundown (someone correct me if i'm wrong):

Stock flywheel = 26lbs
Nismo = 16lbs
JWT, Unorthodox = 12lbs
Tilton = 8lbs

Well, i've got the tilton on there right now, pain in the butt to drive in the city, but you get used to it. Car sounds like its going to fall apart any minute, but I know it isn't. Acceleration / revving is like a motorbike, and that can't be beat.

 

JWT is actually 13.5/14 lbs and is made by Fidanza...! :-)

 

+1..I got it taken out but the look on peoples face when I rev'd up was priceless

 

Since I just tool out my tilton and had a JWT Combo installed, I know them both. THe lightest of any is the Tilton at 16 pounds total. The JWT clutch and Nismo Flywheel is the lighter of the EASY to drive set-ups, but can't handle FI. JWT clutch and Flywheel can handle FI if you plan on going that route. THe TIlton is a pain to drive everyday, the JWT is like stock.

 

was the tilton and jwt really different from each other? is there also a way to use lets say the tilton flywheel and jwt clutch? or does it both have to be the same brand?

 

The Tilton flywheel is a smaller diameter than the stock unit so u need the tilton clutch as well.

 

Night and day. The tilton is VERY light with a total clutch and flywheel weight of just 16 pounds and uses a 7.25 inch clutch.Tilton only works with tilton. The JWT clutch and Flywheel is like 33-34 pounds. The JWT Flywheel and Nismo clutch combo is 30 pounds. The tilton Revs VERY fast due to its weight AND diameter. But since it is so light and small, it also stalls VERY easily. The JWT package and Nismo combo are heavier and handle just like stock but revs faster than stock. Here are some pics of my JWT Clutch and Flywheel, and my Tilton set-up.

 

Those of you who said you have, or have had the Titlon set up and commented that it was a pain to drive around town... was it the street setup, or the semi-street setup?

 

Mine was the Semi-Street, which is harder than the street, but not much. It was explained to me that if the stock clutch can be slipped 100% when starting from a stop, then the JWT or Nismo would be about 90%, The carbon Tilton would be about 25%, The street Tilton would be about 15-20% and the Semi Tilton about 5%.

 

how long will the tilton last compared to jwt?

 

BTW anyone have or try the act or ats clutch and flywheel?

 

I can't believe how erroneous some of the numbers being thrown around in here are. 33 pounds for the JWT set up? Get off the crack pipe!

Stock weighs between 28-30lbs. People used to argue about this a lot. I usually say 29 since it's right in the middle.

Nismo weighs 21 lbs. I had this in my car and was a little dissapointed -- for the money there was not a huge difference.

JWT weighs 14 lbs -- I have this in my car currently, as well as the JWT clutch, and I think it's the perfect compromise for sportiness as well as daily driving. I am very pleased. Easy enough to get around town, but extremely gratifying to drive spiritedly.

Tilton weights vary depending on the setup and clutch, but are AMAZINGLY light, and as everyone else is saying...are very difficult to drive on the street.

As for noise...generally the lighter you go the more chatter you'll encounter. The JWT and Nismo chatter enough to hear from outside the car under 2000RPM but dissappears above 2000. The noise is not loud enough to be aggravating and you get used to it fairly quickly. If you want a lightweight flywheel you will have to deal with the noise, it's one of those compromises you just have to make.

Also, if you use hard engine mounts or a dampener, the tranny noise gets loud enough to be aggravating to some people. Car sounds very racey at that point. So if noise is an issue I'd stay away from different engine mounts if you go the lightweight flywheel route.

 

IIRC, 33lbs was quoted for the flywheel + clutch total weight.... 14lbs was for the flywheel alone.

The reason the tilton clatters so much is that it is a sintered (or cera if you go the rally route) metallic clutch disc material (also believe it's three-puck)... if you want light weight but no chatter (still get a bit of cement mixer sounds at <2500rpm) get the ATS carbon clutch... 9.9lbs flywheel weight and easy (or easier than) stock to slip.

 

I guess we know who REALLY need to lay off the crack pipe. The #'s we are putting up, have been posted by shops like Performance. The total weight of the JWT COMBO is about 33 or 34 pounds. THe tilton combo is about 16. Like I said, I had the Tilton, ALOT of noise and chatter and for me was too hard to deal with daily. Plus, People think your car is going to fall apart because of the noise. THe JWT combo is no harder than stock to drive and I have NO noise at all.

 

I just got my Nismo flywheel/clutch setup out of the shop yesterday, I have only driven it about 20 miles so far but I like the what I feel so far. I know it's not terribly aggresive as compared to the JWT or Tilton setups but I do alot of daily driving. My clutch was gone anyway so I upgraded.

I have noticed a quicker throttle response, and I have to give it a little more gas when I downshift because it also revs down faster when clutch is engaged...I think I'm going to be pleased wtih my new setup and I'll keep you posted.

Fritz

 

i was eyein up the rps combo. any weight figs on that?

 

I read your post as flywheel only weight measurements because of something you said about the NISMO.

 

I am considering the JWT flywheel also. Would it be crazy not to do the clutch at the same time? I really don't need a new clutch yet and even if I go Vortech in the near future I figure I should be fine with my stock clutch and the JWT flywheel. But I'd hate to make a mistake and have to remove the tranny a second time.