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Old 07-03-2005 | 12:25 PM
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The stroked 3.2 VQ30 they use in JGTC is a ways out of our price range and swapability for the type of motor they built for competition and may still weigh more than the SR which is capable and doable swap for people in our price range. If we want to talk about Nissan built motors for swaps like that then I would much rather have the Infinity 3.5 V8. The JGTC cars are a little out of question since they have the ability to drop $100k's in development.

Honestly I would sacrifice some tq for drop in overall weight and improved handling.
Old 07-04-2005 | 06:49 AM
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yeah, but even so, they use the VQ30, not the VQ35 like what we have....
Umm maybe because nissan no longer has a car in prodution with a sr20. (I could be wrong but the silvia stoped prodution in 2002) and before the vq they used RB's ( but the skyline rb line vanished in 2002 too)
Old 07-04-2005 | 12:31 PM
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Don't forget, the last time Toyota won the JGTC, it was with a 3S-GTE and not the 2JZ in the front of their Supras. Again, this is not for all out power, but for just more than the maximum output of a NA VQ, you can have the same power, higher redline, and a lighter, better balanced car. It makes real sense under the right circumstances, just as it did for Toyota.
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
Just a news flash for you. Our cars do not have near 50/50 weight distribution. The SR will help balance that and you can also try to lower the motor a bit for a lower center of gravity
"just a news flash for you" 53/47 is pretty damn close to 50/50 maybe not right on but close.
Old 07-06-2005 | 10:12 AM
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I havnt done my homework but what is the actual weight difference?????????? 100 pounds?? take a s h i t youll be lighter...
Old 07-06-2005 | 10:15 AM
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but hey its fun cool idea but silly in my book. inovation is nice
Old 07-06-2005 | 10:24 AM
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Our weight distribution is 51/49. This comes from the Best Motoring video. The 350z Shock.
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Nissanusa.com shows 53/47 but i said Near(<---------key word in my post) 50/50 and i get **** for it.
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Originally Posted by Bran_BranZ33
"just a news flash for you" 53/47 is pretty damn close to 50/50 maybe not right on but close.
Hey there, hold your horses. I did not mean this in a "mean way." Although I can see how it may have come off that way. However, I am pretty damn picky when it comes to numbers, so near 50/50 should be pretty damn close like 49.1/50.9 or something of the like not 53/47.
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Originally Posted by barthelb
Our weight distribution is 51/49. This comes from the Best Motoring video. The 350z Shock.
I corner weighted my car and it is closer to being 53/47
Old 07-06-2005 | 11:17 AM
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So those bastards lied!!! Arrgggg
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So those bastards lied!!! Arrgggg
It could be possibly 52/48, which isn't bad. I have a Lexan window, but then again I have a nitrous bottle back there
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Dumbest thing I've ever seen...amazes me what people will come up with to be different. Take a perfect engine with way more potential, let alone reliability, yank it and toss in a used antiquated 2L 4cylinder engine for what? Weight savings? 50.000001/49.000099 balance? ROFL!

RB25DET or RB26DETT would be interesting, however the VQ35 will kill that motor stock vs. stock or modded vs. modded and be more reliable. Lack of aftermarket for the VQs? Give me a break, you guys must be coming from Honduhs. All those high HP SR20/SR22DET motors people are talking about lack one thing...TORQUE. You can throw all the turbo you want, it will still lag due to less displacement to produce remotely near the same HP levels at much higher boost.

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Old 07-07-2005 | 08:07 PM
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man.. thats sick, i beleive the car is 300lbs lighter with that SR20 isnt it?... i wonder how the car handles with a decent street setup (all the ones ive seen are strict drifters)
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1Max
Dumbest thing I've ever seen...amazes me what people will come up with to be different. Take a perfect engine with way more potential, let alone reliability, yank it and toss in a used antiquated 2L 4cylinder engine for what? Weight savings? 50.000001/49.000099 balance? ROFL!

RB25DET or RB26DETT would be interesting, however the VQ35 will kill that motor stock vs. stock or modded vs. modded and be more reliable. Lack of aftermarket for the VQs? Give me a break, you guys must be coming from Honduhs. All those high HP SR20/SR22DET motors people are talking about lack one thing...TORQUE. You can throw all the turbo you want, it will still lag due to less displacement to produce remotely near the same HP levels at much higher boost.

Anyways, mAdd PrOps y0~!

no offense man.. but the VQ35 in Z's has thrown rods like EVO's break transfer cases.. the SR20 is a good motor.. sure it'll lack the response and feel of the VQ but will handle boost much better, im working on swapping in an RB26 in mine... im just working out a deal with someone for mounts/installation etc.
Old 07-07-2005 | 08:20 PM
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That's a cool swap, but I think the Z is too heavy for the SR. The SR is too small to power this car. It would be interesting if someone put a built QR25 in the Z. Then it would have the best of both worlds.
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well, here is an update on the car...it will be done by saturday...can't wait to break the engine in and really push it. Anyways, since forsberg is no longer drifting his 350Z i thought i should build mine and take his place. I plan on getting into the forumla d. so i might see you around sometime. funny thing about the 350Z and the S14 is that the weight is only 100 lbs off. so, that's not much. I know you guys have your own thoughts on this swap but, it's not your car and it's not your money. I could have done the rb but, I wanted something that i know how to work on and if i blow the motor it's only 2000 to replace. I will post pictures once it's done. Thanks everyone for your thoughts and input...good or bad.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1Max
Dumbest thing I've ever seen...amazes me what people will come up with to be different. Take a perfect engine with way more potential, let alone reliability, yank it and toss in a used antiquated 2L 4cylinder engine for what? Weight savings? 50.000001/49.000099 balance? ROFL!

RB25DET or RB26DETT would be interesting, however the VQ35 will kill that motor stock vs. stock or modded vs. modded and be more reliable. Lack of aftermarket for the VQs? Give me a break, you guys must be coming from Honduhs. All those high HP SR20/SR22DET motors people are talking about lack one thing...TORQUE. You can throw all the turbo you want, it will still lag due to less displacement to produce remotely near the same HP levels at much higher boost.

Anyways, mAdd PrOps y0~!

So have you tracked a Z or heavily pushed a Z and try to be competitive with it? For the millionth time- its heavy. A 3200lb curb is not friendly for racing. Drop in the RB26 and yeah the car will be close to stock weight and you will overcome that with an extremely reliable race built high HP motor.
Forsberg has his car down to 2600lb, news flash thats as light or lighter than an S15 or possibly an s14. They seem to do fairly well in competition. Point being- you don't need as much power or tq as the VQ if you drop some serious weight and the motors are much more steadily available to replace when you are in competition. Ok I'll stop repeating my self on this thread.

To the poster- congrats let us know how the car feels when you get it back, I might have to PM you with a questions!
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yeah same here.. im dying to know how the car handles...


and yeah the SR'ed 350 should be pretty damn close in weight to a S15 i beleive. some people dont realize alot of the Z's weight is just the VQ

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Originally Posted by Exta_Z
The SR20DET is an extremely powerful 4cylinder powerplant. Did you know that the exact same team of engineers who designed, built, and tested the RB series motors (Skyline motors) are the same engineers who designed, built, and tested the SR20DET!?! No wonder it is THE ONLY Japanese four cylinder ever made that can handle over 600HP on a stock bottom-end...out of the box!!! Also, it makes perfect sense to swap a SR20DET in a 350Z...why? ==> 1) weight 2)reliable potential 3)affordable to buy and mod 4)fuel efficient...in some cases 5)ITS A JDM MOTOR!!! No one else on your block has it!!!

ha.. i wish it was like that here in atlanta.. where its harder to find a KA24 240sx than an SR20DET one


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