Hey guys, I know both of these products are great. I havent researched the greddy too much but I know the UTEC has settings which you can save. I want first hand experience of how these two products are and what the pros and cons are. Oh and yes the search button was used for this question but no in depth answers were found. I'm really looking for the N/A guys to shine here but some F/I guys can also give us a few hints here and there.

 

Anybody?

 

they are both great, the real difference i know of is that with the utec you can set your rev limiter higher and with the greddy you cannot, but if you wanted to you could run the technosquare and the greddy together for that added benefit.

 

Do the REVUP motors even benefit with higher rev limit? I know I can go to 7100 because i've done it stock with my REVUP. I guess I need some more info on this, I got a really good deal on a greddy thats why i'm thinking about this...

 

utec is plug and play, greddy is not

 

the greddy is plug and play if you get the autosport harness

 

but thats anoter $250 and you still need to wire the emanage to it....

 

with the greddy you can raise the rev limiter and you can remove the maf if you do some data logging.

 

I was going to post this very question for NA use. My real questions were going to be:

1. How easy are either of these to tune with a laptop? Basically, do both come with the necessary software and cables to do this and is it intuitive software?

2. What type of datalogging capabilities do both have. Do both work with WB02 sensors?

3. How easy is the overall installation process including any additional wires and sensors that would need to be installed to properly work for NA cars.

4. Are there base maps for stock cars available for both and if so do they include both 5AT maps and 6MT maps?

I am looking for simple answers. If someone wants to be more detailed that is ok, but I do not want someone to waste their time.

 

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does the greddy emanage ultimate really allow you to change the rev limiter to where you want??? i did not know this but if it does im sold. sharif????? you are the man can you speak on this. im na and need to get a tuning device and the greddy would be perfect if this were so. thanks

 

Some of the simple differences are that the Ultimate has a very user friendly interface that is easy to tune, while to the UTEC uses Hyper Terminal to communicate so it will look similar to DOS. Also, whenever UTEC gets an update it is suppose to be able to control cam timing and is also suppose to have a more user friendly interface.

I am not 100% for sure, but I don't believe the Ultimate lets you change the redline while the UTEC will.

 

I can't speak on behalf of the UTEC, but the thing I like about the EU is that it comes with a lot of extra auxillary controlers and monitors. Because it is designed to operate on many different engines and ECU's, it must make accomodations for all of them. Obviously we don't need a VTEC controller on our engine, but with a little creativity, you can use that function in other interesting ways.
It also accomodates for 8 injectors. We don't need 8 injectors, but there are other things you can do with the other 2 channels.

Variable outputs that move with programmed inputs.

Some neat stuff is there. You just need to figure out what you want to do with it. There is a lot to experiment with on the EU if you are the creative type or an engineer.

I'll certaintly be doing some unconventional things with it.

 

Yes it does. On engines that use a fuel cut not an ignition cut (should be no problem here, most Nissans are in this category).

 

I thought that was for the top speed limiter, not the redline?

 

Personally the UTEC is very easy to tune. The interface is designed to have a very easy access to the information you need to get the car tuned quickly. Not to mention you do not need specific interface software installed on your laptop access the UTEC and make changes. We have customers who tune vehicles by pda and even some playing with tuning their cars by PSP's. HyperTerminal may seem to be a bit dated but any windows based pc can be used.

I am partial to the Terminal, but we are developing a GUI to be used with all of our UTEC system for those who need to see 3D maps and want to use a mouse.


The UTEC has the ability to log the normal sensors like RPM, IDC, MAF V., IAT, Coolant Temp, IPW, Factory Ignition Timing and Knock. When used with a Tuner Product you have the ability to add AFR, EGT or any other 0-5V signal.

The N/A install of the UTEC is pretty simple, all you have to do is plug the UTEC into the factory ECU and mount it on the brackets. No hardwiring!

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4. Are there base maps for stock cars available for both and if so do they include both 5AT maps and 6MT maps?
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We have base maps actually currently we have a pretty large variety of FI and N/A base maps. We will be adding more maps as we start to tune more vehicles. The problem is that no intake and exhaust setup is created the same, so for something as simple and intake and exhaust you can't have one map for all.


I hope I have answered your questions.


Thanks,

Jermaine@turboxs.com

 

It has features to do both. To eliminate the speed limiter you need a vehicle speed sensor feed. I am not sure who may have used this feature yet however the rev limiter has been proven to work on several cars.

 

[QUOTE=BlackTuner]Personally the UTEC is very easy to tune. The interface is designed to have a very easy access to the information you need to get the car tuned quickly. Not to mention you do not need specific interface software installed on your laptop access the UTEC and make changes. We have customers who tune vehicles by pda and even some playing with tuning their cars by PSP's. HyperTerminal may seem to be a bit dated but any windows based pc can be used.

I am partial to the Terminal, but we are developing a GUI to be used with all of our UTEC system for those who need to see 3D maps and want to use a mouse.




The UTEC has the ability to log the normal sensors like RPM, IDC, MAF V., IAT, Coolant Temp, IPW, Factory Ignition Timing and Knock. When used with a Tuner Product you have the ability to add AFR, EGT or any other 0-5V signal.



The N/A install of the UTEC is pretty simple, all you have to do is plug the UTEC into the factory ECU and mount it on the brackets. No hardwiring!

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4. Are there base maps for stock cars available for both and if so do they include both 5AT maps and 6MT maps?
These are all very strong points, but another issue is price. Anything you can do about that?

 

So that means I can use my cell-phone (Windows Mobile based iMate K Jam) to quickly reprogram my car. Kewl !

Danny

 

I think for the features and ability this is well worth the price. I mean the options are endless we have the ability to do things like remove the maf and running individual throttle bodies, without throwing a cel.

Thanks,

Jermaine~