Stroker Kits...?
04-22-2006, 07:41 PM
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Stroker Kits...?
I am interested in having a stroker kit put in the 350Z. I have found a few different kits online, mainly the 4.3 AEBS kit. I understand that you have to pull the motor, send it to them and they will install the kit for you, and I see the price for around $7,800.00. Does that include installation or no? Anyone have any ideas on power output? I've read somewhere over 400 rwhp, though you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Anyone know how long it takes for the install? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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04-23-2006, 09:11 AM
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Thats a lot of mods and I bet that car is a bullet on wheels!... I'm really doing this because I think I've lost compression in one of my cylinders and the cylinder needs to be re-sleeved. I figure that I'll go ahead and do something that will fix the problem and give me some extra hp and make the engine almost bullet proof. I realize there are other mods that would cost less than the stroker kit, or about the same and give me more hp, ie. vortec supercharger, APS twins, GReddy twins etc. Thank you.
04-23-2006, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by meatbag
AEBS stroker = nothing but problems
Do you know how much other stuff you need to go with a stroked out motor to get it to run well?
Im not sure that you know how much money you are going to end up spending to do it right.
Do you know how much other stuff you need to go with a stroked out motor to get it to run well?
Im not sure that you know how much money you are going to end up spending to do it right.
No, honestly I don't. I think I would have to upgrade the fuel system and increase oil capasity. I imagine there would have to be an ECU upgrade too, though I already have the unichip ECU installed. I would like to know roughly about how much I would end up spending and why. Thanks.
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04-23-2006, 09:52 AM
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How much power are going for? The few that have gone with the stroker setup are looking for around 1000bhp or more.
If you are looking to stay under 700bhp it would be pointless IMO but everyone has an opinion.
Im just pulling these numbers off the top of my head so none of them are exact and im sure im forgetting stuff
Whatever turbo kit you have, APS TT im guessing?
AEBS stroker $7800
Headwork and cams (1mm oversized valves, ferrera valvetrain) $4700
Radiator and misc parts $1400
Standalone system(unichip wont cut it, or i wouldnt trust it)
HKS Fcon Vpro ~ $3400
~or~
AEM EMS ~ $3000
Triple plate clutch ~ $2800
Level 5 axles ~$1700
Fuel system $1500-$3000 depending on what kind of setup you do.
The list goes on and on and on
If you are looking to stay under 700bhp it would be pointless IMO but everyone has an opinion.
Im just pulling these numbers off the top of my head so none of them are exact and im sure im forgetting stuff
Whatever turbo kit you have, APS TT im guessing?
AEBS stroker $7800
Headwork and cams (1mm oversized valves, ferrera valvetrain) $4700
Radiator and misc parts $1400
Standalone system(unichip wont cut it, or i wouldnt trust it)
HKS Fcon Vpro ~ $3400
~or~
AEM EMS ~ $3000
Triple plate clutch ~ $2800
Level 5 axles ~$1700
Fuel system $1500-$3000 depending on what kind of setup you do.
The list goes on and on and on
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04-23-2006, 10:12 AM
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If I recall you gotta do some modifications to the bottom end to fit the stroker kit, and some other areas to get everything to jive. There was that single GT45R 350z w/ the AEBS stroker kit but the last time I heard about it was like over a year ago when they posted it on this forum. They never updated to how it was going though. The 7800 price tag for the stroker kit is without install.
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04-23-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dbmtrx123
What would you do to solve the compression problem?
Stroker kit is one of those threads that pops up from time to time. It's not as bad as "Which is the best intake on the 350z" but they all end this way.
There's a reason that most people who want this kind of power go for a F/I kit...the reason is - it's expensive enough as it is, without getting a stroker kit.
Feel free to be unique but I just hope you have a deep pocketbook.
04-23-2006, 02:05 PM
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I don't think there's enough cooling passeges wince there's only one small hole per cylinder with the AEBS. You'll just end up possibly overheating the car out on the street. I think it's meant more as a short burst sorta thing like down the drag strip or 20 minute track session.
It'll sure hold a lot of power though, but yeah you'll need a standalone EMS, new fuel system, possibly a different fuel pump - maybe not, lots of down time, etc
If you want do do something that seems to work, get some darton sleeves and bore them out to 3.8 liters - still enough cooling capacity since there's lots of coolant holes
give it a shot though, but so far the people that have gone that route end up spending some pretty big money
It'll sure hold a lot of power though, but yeah you'll need a standalone EMS, new fuel system, possibly a different fuel pump - maybe not, lots of down time, etc
If you want do do something that seems to work, get some darton sleeves and bore them out to 3.8 liters - still enough cooling capacity since there's lots of coolant holes
give it a shot though, but so far the people that have gone that route end up spending some pretty big money
04-23-2006, 02:49 PM
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Right now I don't have a turbo on the Z. I was thinking about getting the APS TT system, but now I've got the compression problem. So, I was thinking of spending that money for the APS system on the 11.5:1 AEBS stroker kit, fixing the problem and getting about the same hp result for a N/A application.
04-23-2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dbmtrx123
Right now I don't have a turbo on the Z. I was thinking about getting the APS TT system, but now I've got the compression problem. So, I was thinking of spending that money for the APS system on the 11.5:1 AEBS stroker kit, fixing the problem and getting about the same hp result for a N/A application.
04-23-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by meatbag
Um..you dont want to turbo a 11.5 c/r motor unless you are going to run very very low boost like 3psi or something.
I was either going to do the turbo or the stroker kit, not both at this time. The 11.5:1 stroker and the APS TT at around 8 psi supposedly give you about the same hp gain...according to internet sources.
04-23-2006, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dbmtrx123
I was either going to do the turbo or the stroker kit, not both at this time. The 11.5:1 stroker and the APS TT at around 8 psi supposedly give you about the same hp gain...according to internet sources.
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04-23-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
so you've done a leakdown test already to confirm the cylinder is hurt? Do you have a warrenty?
what the hell caused it - did you misshift or something?
what the hell caused it - did you misshift or something?
It all started when I installed borla headers and exhaust, but kept the factory cats. I was racing an AMG E-55, then after a pop the engine stalled. Started it back up it and limped it home, about 6 or 7 miles. I blew the cats. So, I put crawford cats and plenum on after that. Then it started burning oil and now its missing terribly and progessively has gotten worse.
It is still under warrenty, but I don't know how I would pawn all this off on a dealership.
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04-23-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
wouldn't hurt to try
try differnt dealerships - you're in CA, go to performance nissan. Call them, talk to someone, bring it in, they're very mod friendly and know that headers, cats, plenum, and exhuast won't kill a cylinder
try differnt dealerships - you're in CA, go to performance nissan. Call them, talk to someone, bring it in, they're very mod friendly and know that headers, cats, plenum, and exhuast won't kill a cylinder
Thanks, I'll give it a shot, though most dealerships try to get out of warranty work however they can. That has been at least my experience with Nissan dealerships. If there isn't any luck with that, I was thinking of taking the Z to Scott Performance up in Santa Clara.