Today I took my car to Bankston Nissan in Lewisville, Texas. I had them put Mobil 1 10W30 in the motor, Redline mix of MTL and MT90 in the trans and Redline 75W90 in the rear diff. I have 950 miles on the Z.

I must say, I have found Bankston Lewisville to be of high quality service with friendly staff and smart techs. I recommend them to all Dallas Z owners for service. I now have my dedicated advisor, Joe Lott and lube tech, Thai ?something?. Both are very easy to talk to and deal with and I also recommend these two people for their respective services.

The rear end wound up taking about 2 quarts maybe slightly less, the trans took what seemed like 4 quarts but I think it was closer to 3.6 quarts, and the motor was content to have 4.75 quarts of oil. I used the longer filter designed for the Maxima, also. So that is my first fluid change and I will be using and recommending Bankston Nissan of Lewisville, Joe Lott, and (for a lube tech) Thai for all routine maintenance and service. No experience with their sales or parts dept. yet. Also, I talked to a tech and will be going back next week to get the timing bumped a maximum of 2 degrees with the Consult II since he said it works.


As a side note, I now use North Texas Nissan for service in Dallas. They are in Denton. MUCH better service with MUCH less wait time, very friendly people. Ask for Penny and tell her Cody sent you.

 

Couple of Questions here.
It seems like you purchased those fluids separately and took it to the dealer to install it for you.
Did they charge the extra $$ for changing fluids?(I guess so) If so, how much was it?
I'm also considering to change the tranny oils and differential oils to redline ones. I need to order them separately.
How many quarts do I need each of them and how much do they cost for each quart? Where can I go order it?
I live in some small town in Indiana and I can't find a shop that carries it unless I go to Indianapolis or something.

 

That's my dealer. I'm SO glad that you were the first to go in and get this done before I did. Where did you get the Redline fluids? I've been using Mobil 1 10w30 since the first oil change.

Thanks,
Brad

 

So engine 5 qts
Tranny 4 qts
Rear end 2 qts.

Great post, this is my next "TO DO" saved me some research.

Did your rear end need posi additive or straight fluid?

I have 5k miles though

 

5 quarts of motor oil, 4 quarts of trans (MTL/MT90), and I would get 3 quarts of 75W90 for the diff. just to be safe. I paid 7.95 a quart for the Redline at Motorsport Sales in Dallas. It is just a one man show but he has gasoline in his veins. His number is 972-644-2533. He is off TI Boulevard on Floyd Circle across from the TI buildings.

The dealer charged me a special price because of my affiliation with a Nissan dealer in another city. I think you should expect to pay about 115 dollars in labor for all three changes. Redline gear oil comes with posi additive in it.

If there is not a close place to buy Redline, simply purchase it online at www.summitracing.com .

I will say that the car feels smoother and guess what, it idles lower. Before the oil change it idled around 900 and now it idles around 750. So much for a grounding kit. How many people changed their oil around the time they put in a grounding kit?

 

How is shifting.. and smoother? and other changes that u have felt?

 

The motor def. spins more smoothly now. The drivetrain has no vibrations or anything. I don't know, really. I have only driven it about 10 miles since I had it changed. Everything feels good so far though. I think there is less resistance to movement throughout the drivetrain though.

 

Sounds good... looking to do the same.. if it will help

 

I obviously saw value in it. Do it!

 

Mr. Potato Head, let us know if you see any increase in you gas mileage. I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

 

Did you really mean that?

 

Yes there is a noticable difference in the way the car runs now. I do not know if it is all the synthetics flowing through it or simply the first fluid/oil change as it only has 950 miles on it. I am not saying that it is a totally different car, but I am saying I noticed a big enough difference for this to be worth the time, money, peace of mind, etc. Also, the change I experienced was expected as I have performed this "mod" on all of my vehicles with good results. I hope that does not make me a synthetic person.

If I can provide any info on mileage change I will, but unfortuantley, I only drive this car on weekends and not every weekend at that. When I do drive it, I don't cruise if you know what I mean. If I am driving this car, there is a reason. With that, if any weird or out of the ordinary occurences become present, I will notify everyone with this thread. Until then, change to Redline!

 

950 miles? Why did you use synthetic in the motor so soon?

 

Because what you believe is a myth. Synthetic is not bad for your car at any stage or age. It protects better, lasts longer, and allows for more performance. I have had great experiences with it in all of my daily drivers as well as my play cars, motorcycles (street and dirt) and anything else I have owned that uses an internal combustion engine. I have always turned faster than average times at the track(s) and have gotten better than avg mileage in all my vehicles. While I cannot attribute the track times solely to oil, , I can say that it certainly did not hurt. I can, however, attribute the mileage to the oil pretty much wholeheartedly. I have always switched almost immediatley and I have had nothing but positive experience over 15 street cars, 5 race cars, 3 street bikes, and 2 dirt bikes.

In fact, most of the disussions on car forums are about whether or not myths people have been told are true. Some are, some used to be, some aren't at all.

 

I would disagree with you. Sythetic does a wonderful job at protecting the engine, however while the engine is breaking in, it protects to well. At the time when break in is occuring, you want some friction of the parts in order from them to wear properly.

Taken directly from Moto Tune's site.

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3 more words on break- in:
NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!

Use Valvoline, Halvoline, or similar 10 w 40 Petroleum Car Oil for at least
2 full days of hard racing or 1,500 miles of street riding.
After that use your favorite brand of oil.


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Viewer Questions:

Q: If break- in happens so quickly, why do you recommend using petroleum break- in oil for 1500 miles ??

A: Because while about 80% of the ring sealing takes place in the first hour of running the engine,
the last 20% of the process takes a longer time. Street riding isn't a controlled environment, so most of the mileage may
not be in "ring loading mode". Synthetic oil is so slippery that it actually "arrests" the break in process before the rings can seal completely. I've had a few customers who switched to synthetic oil too soon, and the rings never sealed properly no matter how hard they rode. Taking a new engine apart to re - ring it is the last thing anyone wants to do, so I recommend a lot
of mileage before switching to synthetic. It's really a "better safe than sorry" situation.

Q: My bike comes with synthetic oil from the factory, what should I do ??

A: Synthetic oil is so slippery that it actually "arrests" the ring sealing process before it's complete.
The best power and least wear comes from perfectly sealed rings !! The solution is to change the
factory installed synthetic oil back to petroleum for the break-in period.


http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Also

http://www.mix-net.net/~red/breakin.html

And this one comes from a site dispelling myths about synthetic oil . However it does say "
Synthetic Oil Is Too Slippery For Break-in
This one might not be a myth. At least, the concensus is that using synthetic oils during break-in is at the very least a waste of money, and at worst doesn't allow the rings to wear down cross hatching in the cylinders.

I could find more if you want, but show me something that says it's ok for break-in. Now I agree that you are getting "nearly" broke in, but I still say that 950 is too little.

http://bamph.com/rmh/oilmyths.htm

 

You can find anything you want to argue any point you want on the internet or in the library. I am not here to argue with you. I don't care what that website says, I have read it too. I have had multiple bikes, etc. My experience stands. If you want to wait for 1500 plus miles, then do it. No one is stopping you. I like to do it sooner rather than later. We build our own race engines and break them in, hell start them up for the first time, on Mobil 1. MY street experience, race experience, etc. dictates what actions I take on my autos. Wait or not, I don't care. You aren't changing my hardened, proven ways by posting links. I GUARANTEE you there will be NO perceivable difference for the life of your car based on choice of oil at 950 or 1500 miles.

This thread is to let fellow Z owners know where they can get Redline (if they are around here), how much fluid to use, and how it feels to drive with these fluids to make things easier for them to decide how they want to do it. Just because you read some stuff online does not mean this is the practice that everyone takes or should take. This is not a point-counterpoint topic; simply a relational story.

 

Whose arguing? You told me that I believe was a myth, so I felt compelled to to back up my claim with some evidence at hand. If you want to tell people on this forum that its ok, I think they should be shown evidence and allowed to make their own decisions. At least they won't make a decision that they might later regret without seeing both sides of the issue. I too have dealt with variety of engines and MY experience has shown that motors that were broken in with synthetic experience problems. The only exception that I have seen is on the Dodge Viper. I THINK they do a pre break in at the factory, and then I believe they then switch to Mobil 1. I will find out for sure tommorow. However I suspect the fact that they are ususally not driven many miles plays a large part to do with how soon you would see problems. But most of them do use oil.

 

That's fine. I just don't want this thread to become just like the millions of other oil threads on the internet. "I like syn early" well I like it late, oh yeah? yeah. here's proof (links) well here is my proof. so what do you think? I think this. Who cares? I am letting people know what I did and they can do anything they want. I think that everyone here has had the appropritate info to make their own decisions in this topic since they have been interested in cars. The debate is tired and I just did not want it included in this thread. Thanks.

 

Potato is certainly right that these oil threads go on and on. I too have changed my fluids using redline products for the differential and transmission and Mobil 1 for the engine.

I waited until 3000 miles before making the change as recommended by Redline oil representative. It makes sense to me to let things seat and settle before using the slippery stuff.

By the way, it only takes about an hour to change all your fluids yourself. Why pay $110 for someone to unscrew the plugs and screw them back in again? Do it yourself, and be assured its done right ! I don't want a minimum wage oil changer touching my car.

 

"By the way, it only takes about an hour to change all your fluids yourself. Why pay $110 for someone to unscrew the plugs and screw them back in again? Do it yourself, and be assured its done right ! I don't want a minimum wage oil changer touching my car.
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btw: Why isn't anyone using the Mobil tranny fluid? I put it in my rx-7 this week and it's shifting like a champ. It's about $8.00 a qt all syn and you can get it anywhere.

But you know I ended up with 3 gallon conainers of old oil 2 trips to the parts store and filthy clothes not to mention the stink of tranny fluid for a day in saving myself $50.00 or so but your right you you have the satisfaction of knowing the job was done right.