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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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Mr. Borla emailed me the Dynos. I do not know how to post it. If anyone can post them Leave your email. I will forward these Dyno plots to you for posting.

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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Just click to attach the picture when you post. Then select the file to upload.

Done.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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I just saw this thread and already posted the email I got in another thread but here it is again. Don't know how legit they are but time will tell. The numbers look low to me for the stock engine but maybe you guys know better.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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One more:
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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What is an H-Pipe. Also I thought Raceboy spoke with Borla and they said they were not going to have a dual exhaust. Looks like the the headers are not worth it with the dual and h-pipe setup.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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Any info on price and date of release?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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211whp stock???????????

these numbers all seem pretty low.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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You sure those number's are for a Z?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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This is the post that was started on zcar.com on this subject:
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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Guys, it's a fake. The only guy named Borla at Borla I know of is Alex, never heard of a David.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Wow, if it is a fake, people have alot of time on their hands. Whoever wrote this email spent time on it as they researched weights, performance of brand 'S', etc. I know it's not that hard to do because alot of that information is already out there but then to go ahead and send personal emails to people with dyno numbers is unbelievable.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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Hmm.... anybody check that parts #s to see is true?


P.S. the car is Automatic... so the stock #s aren't that bad.

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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Default I eamiled him @ the Borla site so it must be real

He responded to my email. They make the best and have been around for a long time. Have a Borla on my WRX and it sounds real mean. Claim high HP for that one too but I never dynoed. There is a noticable increase though.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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his email is davidb@borla.com, and a vendor in another thread confirmed it earlier today. I will be at the sema ias on friday, and will be making a report on 350zfrenzy.com (thats who I work for now, and how I got the media pass) on friday evening. They have a booth and I will confirm it or let you know its a lie. I think its true, but have a hard time believing the hp numbers.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by OZ-Z
He responded to my email. They make the best and have been around for a long time. Have a Borla on my WRX and it sounds real mean. Claim high HP for that one too but I never dynoed. There is a noticable increase though.
have you been on WRX sites, if so, has anyone over there dynod the Borla and is it consistant with Borlas claims???
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Do the numbers make sense?

Headers = 11.5 hp
Exhaust = 24 hp
Headers + Exhaust = 25hp ????

I know horsepower doesn't just add up like in video games, but isn't this way off? Is it a dyno error? Or does the combination of the two actually cause it to work against itself?
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Originally posted by sschmuve
Do the numbers make sense?

Headers = 11.5 hp
Exhaust = 24 hp
Headers + Exhaust = 25hp ????

I know horsepower doesn't just add up like in video games, but isn't this way off? Is it a dyno error? Or does the combination of the two actually cause it to work against itself?
usually they just don't add up, sometimes there can be a synergistic effect were 5+5=15hp, sometimes (most times) you get a effect that is more like 5+5=7 or 8 (because one of the pieces already did most of the work/gain) and every once and a while you get 5+5=5 or 0 or -5.


(this can be the case MANY times with cars that are somewhat maxed out from the factory (not enough backpressure), and people think all you have to do is add more exhaust flow to the engine and automatically you get more HP, but on some cars this isn't the case, usually when a product is researched VERY well, you can even gain a few HP on a great stock engine, but not as much as a POS engine from the factory, this is one of the main reasons I will wait and see before I purchase, another example is when I read a test of HEADERS for an integra in SCC, 60-70% of the headers tested were ether equal in HP or BELOW stock, they have done the same thing with exhaust, etc....)
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by sschmuve
Do the numbers make sense?

Headers = 11.5 hp
Exhaust = 24 hp
Headers + Exhaust = 25hp ????

I know horsepower doesn't just add up like in video games, but isn't this way off? Is it a dyno error? Or does the combination of the two actually cause it to work against itself?
Depending on header designe (primary length and diameter, collectors.....) the headers may be designed t work in a lil different RPM band than the exhaust does...

Ben
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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I send a email yestarday and this is they respond:


The system is not priced until it is released, it is true that you will gain 20+ horsepower on average. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me either by e-mail or by phone (877)462-6752 ext.212

Thanks,
Richard A
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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Well, Mr. David Borla gets my apologies. I was skeptical about the information I received from him but according to Mike (2003z) he is legit and they are coming out with a true dual system. Check out Mike's report from the SEMA on 350zfrenzy.com. I am definitely interested in this Borla system and can't wait for more information on it.
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