ls1 for the z?
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I would never put a domesic motor in any import, especially in a Z. Why didnt you use another V8 Nissan motor or RB for that matter. I never understood why people did this. Why didnt you just purchase an ls1 car from the get go?
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Originally Posted by turismo
I would never put a domesic motor in any import, especially in a Z. Why didnt you use another V8 Nissan motor or RB for that matter. I never understood why people did this. Why didnt you just purchase an ls1 car from the get go?
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Originally Posted by NoahzBurnt
oh yeah...i already had a TT VQ and trust me....it will not even come close to this motor!!!!!
V8 SWAP FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!
V8 SWAP FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!
camaro got a rebuilt engine and produced 400whp ish, na with boltons .. not bad...
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I wouldnt care, if it was a 500ci motor! Putting some pushrod motor, in a VQ chassis is a disgrace. I would have weighed out my options more. There are other V8 Nissans I would have swapped!
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With much less aftermarket...
The fact that he is putting in a motor that is amazingly strong, more torque, more aftermarket and a much higher cieling for horsepower dollar for dollar is smart.
I find it fascinating that someone who pushes the limits of what is being done to the Z, all be it adding an American engine, is considered a disgrace to the community. He is still going into uncharted territory which is a benefit to our community even if it is not what you would do.
With much less aftermarket...
The fact that he is putting in a motor that is amazingly strong, more torque, more aftermarket and a much higher cieling for horsepower dollar for dollar is smart.
I find it fascinating that someone who pushes the limits of what is being done to the Z, all be it adding an American engine, is considered a disgrace to the community. He is still going into uncharted territory which is a benefit to our community even if it is not what you would do.
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You guys are making seem like, this is the motors of all motors. I dont care if it were an ls1, ls2, or ls7, if your going to spend that amount of time, configuring something that wasnt made for the car, why not stick with an import motor. Better yet, buy you a freakin camaro.
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The LS series engines are not the engines of all engines, but they are damn close. Think of how much money it costs to get a LS1 into the low 12 high 11 on the quarter mile. Hmmm 1 cam, a set of LS2 heads, some headers, an intake/exhaust and maybe a 50 shot. That would probably cost you around 2-3K. Now look at the VQ. It takes a $5K turbo, not to mention the $700 exhaust, and all the other essentials you need. Now you have that great 425whp VQ, that you now worry about day to day if it is going to blow. An LS1 makes that power reliably on a stock internals all day long. That is why it is an awesome engine to work with.
And as for the camaro statement, its because the Z is just that much more sexy.
If you were a real car enthusiast you would be able to appreciate the pros and cons of both domestic and imports. Not just being an imports are the fawking rox0rs.
And as for the camaro statement, its because the Z is just that much more sexy.
If you were a real car enthusiast you would be able to appreciate the pros and cons of both domestic and imports. Not just being an imports are the fawking rox0rs.
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Originally Posted by turismo
This has nothing to do, with being a car enthusiast! I love domestic cars and have had some in the past. My arguement is, why put a domestic motor, in an import?
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Because the domestic engine is more reliable at high horsepower numbers. I'm not trying to bash the import motor, because the japanese have figured out how to get a lot of power out of smaller displacement engines. The japanese dont design their engines to be superpowerful because there is really nowhere to open them up. They are engineered to be fast in and out of corners, which is why imports rule on the road courses. The domestic market has always been about sheer power and straight line perfomance and being able to handle high horsepower reliably. So why not be able to have the best of both worlds?
Since the LS series of engines is actually lighter than or equal in weight to the VQ, with some suspension upgrades you could retain the agility of the Z in turns and on road courses, with the sheer horsepower of the american muscle car. Plus, parts in the import market are so expensive. The LS series engine has huge aftermarket support, at affordable costs.
Since you believe that an import engine should go into the car, give us an idea of what you are thinking of. Only engines I can see that would even be considered would be:
RB26 (Parts are hard to come by, and people to work on them even harder)
VG30 (Iron block good for F/I, but known for being prone to many problems)
SR20 (Why would you want to go down to a 4cyl in a fairly heavy vehicle?)
2JZ (Engine puts out alot of good horsepower, but finding a good block at a decent price is difficult.)
Since the LS series of engines is actually lighter than or equal in weight to the VQ, with some suspension upgrades you could retain the agility of the Z in turns and on road courses, with the sheer horsepower of the american muscle car. Plus, parts in the import market are so expensive. The LS series engine has huge aftermarket support, at affordable costs.
Since you believe that an import engine should go into the car, give us an idea of what you are thinking of. Only engines I can see that would even be considered would be:
RB26 (Parts are hard to come by, and people to work on them even harder)
VG30 (Iron block good for F/I, but known for being prone to many problems)
SR20 (Why would you want to go down to a 4cyl in a fairly heavy vehicle?)
2JZ (Engine puts out alot of good horsepower, but finding a good block at a decent price is difficult.)
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Originally Posted by turismo
This has nothing to do, with being a car enthusiast! I love domestic cars and have had some in the past. My arguement is, why put a domestic motor, in an import?
Personally, I am very interested in the "trail" that NoahZBurnt is blazing. When one is looking at $8900 for a 4.2L stroker kit for our motor, plus headers, exhaust, plus then another $7K to $8K for a TT kit, plus tune, install and everything else; I would think considering an LSx build and motor swap probably would make more financial sense and provide you more performance for your dollar -- plus provide you with a solid naturally aspirated foundation to expand on. IMHO.