Well put...

mister-race-gas-in-the-trunk-with-a-hole-plugged-by-gum!



Mine's Tuning company is BAD Azz... pitty people dont do their research before posting.

 

I don't like the looks of the double spoiler, I think they have their reason to do that.

IMO the front ram doesn't looks that bad.

 

11.5 is high, but I don't see it having any dramatically negative effect on engine life, so long as it's properly tuned and maintained.

 

Look, I know Mine's history, I am a racing nut. I know the quality of tuning they usually are known for. I am just saying, that spoiler on top of the factory spoiler is very suspect. It looks bad, and seems VERY tacky.

I pity people who blindly love a manufacturer because of past experience.

 

Yeah, I did and it works and it's free

I think the ram air and stage 2 kit would add lots of power, I don't like the rear spoiler either though.

I'm a 1/4 mile nut I guess it's there for a reason, but looks are important to me too.

 

Blind love...past experience? Doesn't seem to add up Anyway, to each his or her own. Personally, I'm more concerned about going, turning and stopping better than what is and is not 'tacky'.

 

First, stop acting like I'm an idiot, second, stop miscontruing what I am saying.

You have no reason to be confused, it made perfect sense. I was saying that blindly loving a product, without knowing a single thing about it, just because of said company's history, is foolish. Would it make you more likely to accept claims if they made them, sure, that's reasonable.

You want to talk about things that are confusing, how about your comment about what you are concerned with. If you are concerned about those things, handling, etc, why would you consider a product that you knew nothing about performance wise? As far as I have heard, the only company that has done aero testing is C-West, and I imagine NISMO has also.

This is my view, my opinion.

 

So...who to believe? Some guy who makes an incredibly stupid assumption about a company because of a picture he had seen on a forum or a company that has been tuning Japanese cars for over 15 years? Who to believe, who to believe?

 

Dude, chill before the thread gets shut down. I never intended to offend you nor call you an 'idiot'. BTW, if you read my comments, I was actually never considering this package, I was leaning toward a set of Tomei cams, with new springs & retainers, if necessary. I don't feel that a new piston set is worth the amount of money I'd need to lay out for purchase and installation.

 

What's wrong with blindly loving a said company? Lots of ENTHUSIASTS bought their Z just because they had one before and loved it. Ferrari made one of the ugliest, and most expensive cars in the world, but a crap load of people bought the Enzo and I believe they're sold out. I'm just saying a lot of people stick to a brand if it's got a history they like and/or have had past experiences that were positive. Just give it up. You already posted you don't like Mine's cuz of their "double spoiler" and we're just giving you crap for it.

 

SHHHHHHHH!!!! It worked though.

 

The Enzo, like most Ferraris, is built for a purpose, and it's looks reflect that. I can't believe you would use it as an example man, it's one of the most amazing street cars ever built. The F40 is sheer beauty to me, but the Enzo represents the closest thing to an F1 car on the street. Do you know about the car? The underbody, the massive downforce and vacuum under the car? The car can pull 2+ g's at speed going through turns.

I, and a lot of people think it looks good, but regardless, like I said, it's style is a direct result of aerodynamic needs placed on the design.

I almost used the Z as an example, because I doubt very little that many people would buy a Z just by what it was going to look like, not knowing a thing about performance, price, etc (comparing it to seeing this pic of the spoiler only knowing looks). Then I realized the Z is not a fair comparison. That is not really a comparrison. A modification to a car can't really be compared to a whole car. Nissan has to make the car perform, look good, etc, whereas a mod has much less vested in the success of said part. It's hard to explain what I am trying to say here, and I'm sure nobody will back me up on it, but I bet you know what I mean.

Anyhow, this thread has gone on to long.

 

First i must say that all the negativity directed towards mines is stupid. They are a very reputable tuning company, regardless of what wing they put on their show car a while ago.

I for one am surprised at the amount a bitching going on by people. I was thinking there would be more talk about this actual kit that the whole thread was posted about, rather than a wing they put on their show car.

This is our first be NA kit to be released, and those are very impressive numbers. If those numbers a rwhp, then i think it could steer many people away from the likes of FI, especially SC's. While it does cost a lot (which sucks), it's not so bad if it does, in fact, include installation (especially considering the impressive numbers it's putting out.

A couple of comments that i might add to discussion would be engine management. I didnt see any listed? I would think with getting new cams and raising the CR, EM would be a requisite. If the kit does not need any, then there's definitely potential for more power with some added in. If the kit already has EM, then what will it be running (something stand alone, AEM, what?)?

 

I dunno. There's gotta be at least some kinda piggy back comp they have to use if they raise compression and use cams. Otherwise, timing would be so off and it'd probably retard a bit cuz it's confused on what's going on. This is a nice N/A kit... but I'll just wait and see when someone will release a stroker kit.

 

Mine's is an accomplished tuner. The purpose of putting the wing on the OEM wing was to provide a level surface to attach the wing. Not the most beautiful but Mine's has always concerned themselves with function above form. I would imagine it was decided that that method would be the most effective.

 

Can you say, "stage III"?

 

It's a shame that ram air doesnt work at something less than 120mph. Nasa did a study on it.

 

Yo, Mr. B, what are you waiting for? The Hustler store off Sunset has already released the stroker kit.

Wait, what thread is this? Oh, I'm sorry, mah bad...

It's late... I'm being an idiot.

Vic: I still don't get how you're nearly always the one who posts new products (*with* pics) before anyone else... regardless, we all appreciate it.