General question about SAE and 350Z HP ratings...Why 287HP?
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Why is it that in 2006 nearly every Nissan and Infiniti had their numbers SAE corrected, except the 350Z? The G, M, and FX went down to 275HP, meanwhile the Maxima was corrected back to 255HP (not really relevant to the Z, just making a point). But somehow, the 350Z remained with its 287HP rating. How? Does the 350Z actually have marginally different components over the other cars that gives it a 12HP advantage? It's just something that's always made me wonder, since it makes no sense.
Is the entire exhaust (y-pipe and back) on the Z shorter than that of the other cars, because the actual car is so much shorter or no? Go easy on me, I'm still learning about my car.
Is the entire exhaust (y-pipe and back) on the Z shorter than that of the other cars, because the actual car is so much shorter or no? Go easy on me, I'm still learning about my car.
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Actually the '06 MT's were rated at 300hp. Only the auto's were 287 still. Besides, the new SAE ratings weren't in effect when the '06's were released.
And the Infinitis:
* All horsepower ratings are per SAE J1349 AUG2004
Oh, that Nissan. The SAE rating was in place in 2004, as you can see. But I guess Nissan tried to be cute about it and didn't want to have their flagship sports-car downgraded.
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First, the G's and Z's have always had the same power. Exactly the same engine & tune. It's dyno proven.
The only difference is between a revup & non-revup. (Or VQ35HR/VQ37VHR for the newer models)
The new SAE ratings affected the VQ35DE's, both revup and non-revup.
That doesnt mean we have less power; its just a different rating.
The VQ35HR & VQ37VHR are already using the new SAE ratings.
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The only difference is between a revup & non-revup. (Or VQ35HR/VQ37VHR for the newer models)
The new SAE ratings affected the VQ35DE's, both revup and non-revup.
That doesnt mean we have less power; its just a different rating.
The VQ35HR & VQ37VHR are already using the new SAE ratings.
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A: The 2002 Maxima, 2002 Altima, 2002 G35, and 2003 350Z all share the same VQ35DE engine but are tuned slightly differently to produce various levels of horsepower. The Altima's intake and exhaust leave much to be desired stock but a few mods will grant a lot more power. The Maxima has a bigger intake but lacks a good exhaust system. The G35 has ram air and cold air. The least restrictive intake is found in the 350Z. Redesigned intake ports, a virtually aftermarket CAI, increased valve lift, and a decent exhaust system put the 350Z in competition with cars twice the price. The Z is rated at 287 horsepower and 274 ft-lbs of torque vs the G35 sedan's 260 hp/260 ft-lbs and the G35 coupe's estimated 275 hp. These RWD cars both feature a 6 speed manual with short throws and precise gates or a 5 speed fully sequential automatic transmission. The Z also has a carbon driveshaft which is quieter and 40% lighter. Both cars can be driven from the dealership to the track with their fully independent advanced multilink suspension system. The Z suspension is a designed to handle the twisties better with stiffer spring rates and extra bracing while the G35 gives a more comfortable balance between comfort and handling with it's longer wheelbase. Weight advantage belongs to the Z at 3200 lbs, about 130 less than the G35 sedan. Aerodynamically, these cars were designed to fly down the track. Both cars share 0 degrees of front lift and small coefficients of drag (0.3 on the Z and 0.27 on the G35 sedan). If you want a car ready to race straight from the showroom (and you only have one friend to sit in this two seater), the 350Z offers what you're looking for. If you prefer refined but still aggressive tastes, you should save a few more grand and head to the Infiniti dealership. Having been in both these cars, I can say you won't be disappointed with either!
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
I just took a look at the footnotes of the spec sheet for the Z: All horsepower ratings are per SAE J1349 JUN1995
And the Infinitis:
* All horsepower ratings are per SAE J1349 AUG2004
Oh, that Nissan. The SAE rating was in place in 2004, as you can see. But I guess Nissan tried to be cute about it and didn't want to have their flagship sports-car downgraded.
And the Infinitis:
* All horsepower ratings are per SAE J1349 AUG2004
Oh, that Nissan. The SAE rating was in place in 2004, as you can see. But I guess Nissan tried to be cute about it and didn't want to have their flagship sports-car downgraded.
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Well I just found it weird that Nissan managed to side-step around the new SAE ratings system for the Z, meanwhile every other car didn't. Especially since the rating system had already been in place for a year with the release of the 2006 Z.
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Remember even SAE ratings are with engine out of car on dyno stand at 77F mounting engine in the chassis often leads to decreases due to hotter spots.
Often the exhaust system after cats and the intake prior to air fliter are different in dyno room.
Plus they only sample a few engines [sometimes selecting a few perfect or peakier examples].
I always assume rated power is -+ 3% after 30,000 miles.
Often the exhaust system after cats and the intake prior to air fliter are different in dyno room.
Plus they only sample a few engines [sometimes selecting a few perfect or peakier examples].
I always assume rated power is -+ 3% after 30,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Well I just found it weird that Nissan managed to side-step around the new SAE ratings system for the Z, meanwhile every other car didn't. Especially since the rating system had already been in place for a year with the release of the 2006 Z.
So basically, the new engines came out, at about the time that the new SAE rating took effect.
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Once again, the revised system was in effect back in August 2004. All of Nissan's 2005 and 2006 models (including Infinitis) were revised, except the 2005 and 2006 350Z. They side stepped the new rating by stating in their spec sheets of the 2005 and 2006 350Z that the 287HP rating is per the old SAE system from 1995. I've already established that.
They basically used a loophole and dressed it up with a disclaimer.
They basically used a loophole and dressed it up with a disclaimer.
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