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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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http://www.i-m-racing.com/veilheadstai.html
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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Because they can.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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muuuuahahahahahahaaa, because the Veilside stickers that come with it add an additional 15HP!!!
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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because they are on "SALE"

thats what my wife tells me anytime she buys stuff
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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how much did it cost them to make it,
mabe less than $599.99
whos will buy this?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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people in japan will, cause thats all that it fits. Jspec cars.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by swifty949
people in japan will, cause thats all that it fits. Jspec cars.
how do you know that it will only fit j-spec z's?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Lots of people would buy it actually - they ahve sold quite a few in Japan to my understanding. Is it expensive? Hell yeah - as is everything Veilside makes. But maybe it is the better mousetrap - I learned long ago not to mock it unless you have a reason too....this could very well be the best performing, best fitting header on the market, and in that vein, maybe it is worth it to some. Would I get it, even for my own car? Not a chance - not sure if headers are worth it to me yet

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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maybe they're titanium and it's a misprint?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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they do look very smooth... look at the way the pipes are cut.. they are cut at an angle and join together smootly unlike other headers that are put together from the end of the pipe to a joining joint thingy...

knaa mean?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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I agree, those are the best looking headers out there. And look very well made.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Hraesvelg
I agree, those are the best looking headers out there. And look very well made.
it all comes down to funcionality though..

$3000 Prada bag that will hold a couple days worth of clothes

next to

$40 K-Mart duffle bag that is black and will hold a couple of small children...

Id take the K-Mart bag...

then again I wouldnt want to get blood on a Prada bag any way...

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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 04:13 AM
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I could see paying this amount of money if they were equal length or long tube and gained 15-20 HP and so on. They don't even tell you what kind of gains they produce probably because it’s not very impressive...

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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by rodH
because they are on "SALE"

thats what my wife tells me anytime she buys stuff

Womans logic
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Z's in japan are right hand drive, this part was made in Japan. For right hand drive cars. The steering column will interfere with this manifold design. Veilside isnt big on dyno's & HP mainly because it's the tuning that makes the difference in power. With veilside being a Tuning company this is the basic philosophy & cultural perspective on it:

If you have a header you should have an exhaust, ECU, exhaust and complimenting parts. How lame would it be to get a HP rating on only a header?

On the same point, their Supra Surgetank was never advertised with any HP ratings. SP Engineering did independent tests and got an additional 75-100hp out of it. If it's not going to make a difference, veilside will not make it.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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the looks of the headers don't mean anything

these "ugly" headers make the most dyno hp i've seen posted

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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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yeah but lots of people would never install those on their car Mike- they are pretty "raw"

Poeple drop cash on ti exhausts too...where is the logic there? to turn a 3200 lb car into a car that weighs 3160.....

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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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No collectors = junk.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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If you HPC coated those Headers they would look Sweet as hell. I want some Now.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by teh215
No collectors = junk.
these are prototypes, the final version has collectors.
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