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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Hey guys, I have been doing some research on this topic but do still have a couple of questions.

I have a 2006 350z base model with a 6spd gearbox. The car is turboed, and my goal is to be around 380whp. With the base model having an open diff., traction becomes an issue because I end up spining one wheel.

I was thinking about getting the Queife, but decided to go with a cheaper route. So I am now looking at slightly used OEM pumpkins with OEM LSD's in them. From what I understand the 5spd automatic G35's and 350z's have a final drive of 3.3 where I have the 3.5 in my base model. In case I do come across a pumpkin from a 6spd car or a 5spd auto, I will buy it.

I would just like to make sure that if I have the stub axles, this would be a direct swap without any issues. The drive shaft and axles will bolt right up, and I would be on my way.

Can someone with experience please confirm this?

Oh, and if anybody knows where I can get one PM me please.

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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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I swapped an 06' G35 6MT pumpkin into my 03' 350Z 6MT without issue.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Yes all the pumpkins should bolt up fine. I did a OEM pumpkin swap with another manual and it was a direct bolt up.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Don't bother with the VLSD , its junk and willnot last long. It has a usable life of 60k miles if its not autocrossed or tracked.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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my vlsd lasted 40k miles its completely useless now at 68k... i need a lsd so bad
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Well, I picked up a diff. from a 2004 auto with a 3.3 FD. It arrived today and I am hoping to install it tommorow.

I was thinking about taking the diff. cover off, draining the fluid and blasting it all with brake cleaner.

Would cleaning it with brake cleaner be a bad idea? I am not too familiar with the inner workings of a VLSD so advice is apreciated.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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man that is going to be a different car!
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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how do you know if your diff is bad? I suspect mine sucks cause sometimes when I want to whip it around or rip a doughnut when im pissed off, its tough to get them both to spin right away. they both always spin when going straight or putting it out around a corner though?
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how do you know if your diff is bad? I suspect mine sucks cause sometimes when I want to whip it around or rip a doughnut when im pissed off, its tough to get them both to spin right away. they both always spin when going straight or putting it out around a corner though?
Aftermarket Tomei or Kaaz LSD set to 100% lock and your set.
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Do it right and get the Quaife.
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Originally Posted by MDHRZ
Do it right and get the Quaife.
Not everyone wants to deal with the clunking/clanging of the aftermarket LSD's especially when 99% of the car's life is going 70 mph on the freeway to get to work. I assume Quaife is no quieter than the other aftermarket LSD's
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Originally Posted by peegs
Not everyone wants to deal with the clunking/clanging of the aftermarket LSD's especially when 99% of the car's life is going 70 mph on the freeway to get to work. I assume Quaife is no quieter than the other aftermarket LSD's
actually it is, but its a completely different style diff.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
actually it is, but its a completely different style diff.
In your opinion is it better than the VLSD and for a daily driver that see's some occasional track days, is it worth it?
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the Quiafe is absolutely silent...it makes zero noise.

not all clutch type diffs make noticeably odd noises...it comes down to the quality of the machined parts and the fluid used
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Originally Posted by peegs
Not everyone wants to deal with the clunking/clanging of the aftermarket LSD's especially when 99% of the car's life is going 70 mph on the freeway to get to work. I assume Quaife is no quieter than the other aftermarket LSD's
What noise?
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Bump for more questions.

I ended up getting the 3.3fd VLSD pumpkin, installed it and drove the car for a couple of weeks. The 3.3fd is a bit too long for 360whp so I want to take the 3.3VLSD and put it in my base 3.5fd diff.

Is this something that one can do in the garage? I am wondering if there will be shimming involved?
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Originally Posted by BoostedProbe
Bump for more questions.

I ended up getting the 3.3fd VLSD pumpkin, installed it and drove the car for a couple of weeks. The 3.3fd is a bit too long for 360whp so I want to take the 3.3VLSD and put it in my base 3.5fd diff.

Is this something that one can do in the garage? I am wondering if there will be shimming involved?
you can't

auto (3.3) ring and pinions will only mate to differentials from auto pumpkins, and manual ring and pinions only mate to differentials from manual transmission pumpkins. The internals do not swap between pumpkins
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you can't

auto (3.3) ring and pinions will only mate to differentials from auto pumpkins, and manual ring and pinions only mate to differentials from manual transmission pumpkins. The internals do not swap between pumpkins
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


Can anybody identify this VLSD part number: 38420-2C000

I found the VLSD for a really good price, and hope I can drop it in my 3.5fd diff. This is starting to annoy me.
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Adam are you sure about that (absolutely positive) because I just purchased an auto pumkin (buyer neglected to state is was an auto diff in ad) and I went through with the sale because I intend to completely rebuild it with an aftermarket LSD and all new internals and gears. I thought just the thickness of the ring gear and LSD were different size and not interchangable with the 5 speed diff, pumkin shouldnt matter?

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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I pray the pumpkin doesn't matter Vader. I hope Z1 comes back and chimes in.

I was under the impression (via reading internet which isn't a smart idea) that for my 5at I would need:
-Manual's pumpkin
-swap my stock lsd for an aftermarket lsd
JUST TO RUN 4.038 final drive.
I have a 3.3 FD and want the 4.038 and via reading I came across the fact that it's just too much work/money if I have to not only get an aftermarket LSD but also an entire pumpkin from a manual 350z.

I need confirmation that I can use my stock 5at pumpkin. If I can use my pumpkin I will get rid of my stock lsd and get the 4.038 FD w/ aftermarket LSD that mates to it.
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