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Old 11-15-2003 | 01:21 PM
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I'm gonna give it a try. What's there to lose?
Old 11-15-2003 | 01:46 PM
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What does this Do again? Besides take $250 away from my real Mods, And does it come in Blue

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Old 11-15-2003 | 03:47 PM
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Boy, small world. I guess about every Z owner in the country is a member of this board, so why shouldn't someone from the outfit testing this gizmo be? I gotta give 'em props for being so willing to send out a unit for independent testing by a trusted member here and to Jesseenglish for willing to do it all. Should be interesting. You guys get stuff done!
Old 11-15-2003 | 03:55 PM
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money back guarantee hmmmm ...... anyone have any expereince with this yet?
Old 11-15-2003 | 04:24 PM
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the only thing I don't understand is how they get 3 phases from a DC circuit? There is no sine wave in DC circuit flow. Is this thing based on an inverter?

Other than that I have seen worse coined terms for components than "adder/subtracter" used by GE and similar companies.

If simply a mo betta voltage regulator than why don't they just say that.
Old 11-15-2003 | 04:35 PM
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Interesting. Seems to be some sort of a power conditioner. Lots of high-end audio users use power conditioners on their audio equipment, to filter unwanted ranges of frequencies in the current.

Of course it won't work on a diesel, there's no electric ignition on a diesel.
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Originally posted by zand02max
Okay, I'm in. My car is bone stock except for the K&N drop-in air filter and the Optima Yellow Top battery. I also am running 1800 watts for my stereo sytem. FYI.

So count me in Jesse, I just need help with the install, ect. I'll be more than happy to fork over the $, if it indeed does what is says.
Sounds good, hopefully I'll have it without too much delay.

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Old 11-16-2003 | 05:40 AM
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LOL,

This is an the funniest electronic joke for cars yet. I have a BS in EE and an AS in CE and this is at the most some form of power conditioner. I would love to see the guts of this baby.

I also was in sales for about 5 years. This is what i think. It takes alot of ******** to sell ********. Look at how much mumbo jumbo tech terms they try to throw into one sentence. Also, all of a sudden someone finds this thing, then it just so happens the company finds this post out of how many forums?

I can't wait for the results of this thing.
Old 11-16-2003 | 06:47 AM
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Also, all of a sudden someone finds this thing, then it just so happens the company finds this post out of how many forums?
Well, I can nip that one in the bud. I've been a mamber here for over a year and I'd never heard of this thing before I stumbles accross it purely by chance. I don't even remember where I saw the ad; I was doing a search for forums discussing the TVR Tuscan Speed Six and there was a banner ad for it on one of the sites I visited. Does seem oddly coincidental that they would find this post so quickly, but as I stated above, it seems just about every competant Z owner in the country is a member here (they did testing on a Z, so I assume somebody there owns one), so it's not that far of a stretch.

At any rate, there's no sence nocking it as they are willing to send a unit out to Jesseenglish for testing. We'll have the truth soon enough.
Old 11-16-2003 | 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by LiqTenExp
LOL,

This is an the funniest electronic joke for cars yet. I have a BS in EE and an AS in CE and this is at the most some form of power conditioner. I would love to see the guts of this baby.

I also was in sales for about 5 years. This is what i think. It takes alot of ******** to sell ********. Look at how much mumbo jumbo tech terms they try to throw into one sentence. Also, all of a sudden someone finds this thing, then it just so happens the company finds this post out of how many forums?

I can't wait for the results of this thing.
Hey I'll open mine up when I get it. You can pick at its guts!
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What does this Do again? Besides take $250 away from my real Mods, And does it come in Blue
It doesn't take $250 away if you don't like it. They refund everything even shipping.
Old 11-16-2003 | 08:31 AM
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I just wanted to address the statement :
"Also, all of a sudden someone finds this thing, then it just so happens the company finds this post out of how many forums?"

I check my logs often to see where people that visit the DPS page on AF are coming from. This thread URL appeared in the logs more than once so I checked it out.

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Jesse, I got confirmation that your unit was sent out today.

Also, Brian should have the analysis, including times to RPM plots and dyno results tomorrow.
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OK, I'm I'll be looking out for it.
Old 11-18-2003 | 04:26 PM
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Reporting back as I promised Brian will have some results today
He has not written his full review of the product yet, but here is what he has provided me with so far:




Notice the almost identical power curves (the DPS peaked out an average of about 1.5-2 hp higher than without it over 8 runs), contrasted against the small but clear advantage it showed at virtually all RPM in accelerating the dyno rollers. This is real world performance, this is smoothness and increased revability that doesn't always show through in power output numbers.
Old 11-18-2003 | 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by LiqTenExp
LOL,

This is an the funniest electronic joke for cars yet. I have a BS in EE and an AS in CE and this is at the most some form of power conditioner. I would love to see the guts of this baby.

I also was in sales for about 5 years. This is what i think. It takes alot of ******** to sell ********. Look at how much mumbo jumbo tech terms they try to throw into one sentence. Also, all of a sudden someone finds this thing, then it just so happens the company finds this post out of how many forums?

I can't wait for the results of this thing.
I have a BS in CE and an AS in EE and I work with scientific and electronic instrumentation. I agree with the above sentiments. The web site is full of techno-babble and mumbo jumbo.

Based on the web page I would say this is thing belongs in the same trash can as the Tornado and the gas line magnets.

If, by some chance, this thing does work, then they REALLY need to fire the clown who wrote the web page and write a web page that REALLY describes what it is and how it works.

At BEST it is a power conditioner, possibly just a capacitor. However, batteries have their own signficant capacitance, so even that would be of little value for normal operation. (capacitors are only required for high current operation like a high power stereo hitting a bass note).

I will wait for the test, but my prediction: BS
Old 11-19-2003 | 03:36 AM
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Guess it won't work in my car, I already have a 3 Farad capacitor.

We'll see once it comes in, Jesse is going to test it in his car and then mine.
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Exactly right, your battery is a huge capacitor. It aids in taking the messy AC from you alternator thats coverted into DC and helps smooth it out to get rid of some of the ripple produced when coverting AC to DC. Aftermarket caps for audio are great since they can reside right next to the to feed it the required bursts of current it needs instead of asking for it all the way up front at the battery which may be near its limit as it is. The battery in this car is very small compared to what I am used to. I currently own a Intrepid and i think i am using a group 27 battery in there right now.
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