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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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is it just me or is the redline a little low? what would be needed to raise the redline for NA or FI applications? thanks
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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you would need a ECU update from TS or JWT.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by spazpilot
you would need a ECU update from TS or JWT.
Technosquare raises it only 500rpm correct? that still seems low any other solutions?
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by ZSPEED83
Technosquare raises it only 500rpm correct? that still seems low any other solutions?
GEEZ, how high are you planning on taking it? Do you have upgraded internals?

TS is the only ECU out as of now, JWY supposed to be early next year.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
GEEZ, how high are you planning on taking it? Do you have upgraded internals?

TS is the only ECU out as of now, JWY supposed to be early next year.
so lets says if i had a full built engine with rods, pistons, and valvetrain. could technosquare built a custom ecu with a higher redline? would it be bad for the engine?
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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if you say it was full built then it wouldn't be bad.

but no matter what there would be a limit.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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another data point.. in a Japan car magazine there is an interview with the z project leader talking about future upgrades to the engine. In it he says that they are looking to increase the redline to around 7,500 - 7,600 rpm and he states that this would imply upgrades to the engine such as upgraded valves.. seems that this fine tuned engine is slated to come out in aug of 2004 along with a light weight Z..
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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I don't think the valvetrain is the issue in raising it another 1k rpm - the cam specs and more importantly bottom end (bearings) seem to be the main hinderances.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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I had T/S raise mine to 7200. I was just tried of bouncing of the limiter all the time. Shifting much after 6800 doesn't do much anyway as the power and torque drop off.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
I had T/S raise mine to 7200. I was just tried of bouncing of the limiter all the time. Shifting much after 6800 doesn't do much anyway as the power and torque drop off.
Jeff: From what i saw looking at the dyno of a NISMO cam installed, the hp curve was still climbing at 6800rpm vs dropping off with a stock cam. Doesnt your Z have Nismo cams in it? You are not experiencing continued power gain beyound 6800rpm?

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Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
I had T/S raise mine to 7200. I was just tried of bouncing of the limiter all the time. Shifting much after 6800 doesn't do much anyway as the power and torque drop off.
Jeff -

If you would bite the bullet and buy Crawford's plenum, and ditch the NISMO headers. You would make power till redline - I totally respect you wanting to run what you sell... but I figure you would want power as well!
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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so what would be the limit on a fully built for FI? 8000rpm redline?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by The Individual
Jeff -

If you would bite the bullet and buy Crawford's plenum, and ditch the NISMO headers. You would make power till redline - I totally respect you wanting to run what you sell... but I figure you would want power as well!
You know, with all the talk about the plenum, I was going to take the dive and give it a shot. Your plenum is still on our mod list, but for Jasons car now. Looks like I'm holding off anymore mod's to try out the new Dreamworks Super Charger, and Jasons car will be our N/A guinea pig now.
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Originally posted by The Individual
Jeff -

If you would bite the bullet and buy Crawford's plenum, and ditch the NISMO headers. You would make power till redline - I totally respect you wanting to run what you sell... but I figure you would want power as well!
great point, my car no longer loses power but keeps climbing til redline.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by rodH
great point, my car no longer loses power but keeps climbing til redline.
Maybe I'm wrong???? We'll double check the dyno chart Monday.
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So Im getting a plenum?

Ill post my full reviews on it if and when I do...

Jeff's Dyno...

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The higher up in RPM's you go the lower TQ is HP stops around 6500 it looks on jeff's...
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Originally posted by rodH
great point, my car no longer loses power but keeps climbing til redline.
Gotta love the plenum...

The headers do same thing on top of the plenum, PLUS give gobs of torque.

God Crawford's loves making power...

Near 40hp and 30ft ft-lbs at redline... WITHOUT cams!!!
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Originally posted by The Individual
Gotta love the plenum...

The headers do same thing on top of the plenum, PLUS give gobs of torque.

God Crawford's loves making power...

Near 40hp and 30ft ft-lbs at redline... WITHOUT cams!!!
May I see a dyno?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
May I see a dyno?
It's been posted many times already...

We plan on doing more tuning and bring even better numbers to the table. Peak numbers, we're pretty much there... a/f looked good, but down low... MUCH more can be made!
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