Travismaser's Toyota 350z RE-build
05-06-2012, 07:13 PM
#22
Awesome build. Gotta love the ol' JZ's.
Funny enough, there is a bunch of buzz over JZ's bolting up to our gearboxes as an alternative to the expensive V160 or the tractor-like R154. I see you already extended the shifter so I guess you made up your mind, but did ya think about keeping the 6 speed?
Funny enough, there is a bunch of buzz over JZ's bolting up to our gearboxes as an alternative to the expensive V160 or the tractor-like R154. I see you already extended the shifter so I guess you made up your mind, but did ya think about keeping the 6 speed?
05-07-2012, 02:37 AM
#23
Awesome build. Gotta love the ol' JZ's.
Funny enough, there is a bunch of buzz over JZ's bolting up to our gearboxes as an alternative to the expensive V160 or the tractor-like R154. I see you already extended the shifter so I guess you made up your mind, but did ya think about keeping the 6 speed?
Funny enough, there is a bunch of buzz over JZ's bolting up to our gearboxes as an alternative to the expensive V160 or the tractor-like R154. I see you already extended the shifter so I guess you made up your mind, but did ya think about keeping the 6 speed?
05-07-2012, 05:15 AM
#24
The R154 will handle 750+ RWHP easily. Looks like it was originally from a Aristo/Supra without the external tripod (earlier years). The rear seals like to leak from pressure buildup but the earlier style vents through the shifter.
05-10-2012, 08:08 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/300695434945...#ht_974wt_1270
What're you using for motor mounts? Are you going through the CANBUS system to get the stock gauge cluster to work or are you plugging them up with aftermarket ones?
05-10-2012, 08:39 AM
#29
I saw this little do-dad but I'm not 100% sure how that works and if some kind of spacer is required for the flywheel/pressure plate to make up for the adapter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300695434945...#ht_974wt_1270
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300695434945...#ht_974wt_1270
Allegedly, a Toyota 3VZ-E flywheel, 350Z clutch disk, 3S-GTE pressure plate from MR2 combo will work with a few mods to the flywheel itself.
05-10-2012, 10:50 AM
#30
The harder part is actually sourcing the correct flywheel/pressure plate/clutch disk combo. There are quite a few people that make the adapter rings for the bell housing.
Allegedly, a Toyota 3VZ-E flywheel, 350Z clutch disk, 3S-GTE pressure plate from MR2 combo will work with a few mods to the flywheel itself.
Allegedly, a Toyota 3VZ-E flywheel, 350Z clutch disk, 3S-GTE pressure plate from MR2 combo will work with a few mods to the flywheel itself.
05-10-2012, 08:40 PM
#33
Here is the more important info from our emails.
Hey Mike,
I've been flooded with questions for this swap, which is why it has been taking me so long to respond.
There are a few different ways to approach the dilemma of getting this transmission on to this engine and finding a clutch system that works with everything..
First off with the Z33/Z34 transmission the splines on the input shaft start alot further back than a normal manual gear box, which means a few things.
1) The splines on the clutch disc have to reach the splines on the input shaft(Obviously) in order to get this whole Idea to workout.
2) With the addition of the adapter plate you have an additional distance to cover.
3)cost
4)hold a decent amount of horse power.
There are a few different options that people have thought up over the years:
Make a new flywheel that bolts to the 2JZ crank and spaces out the clutch disc the right amount to get proper clutch disc engagement, or use an automatic 2JZ flexplate coupled with a spacer that holds a button flywheel onto it that gets the proper amount of spacing that also keeps a decently low moment of Inertia.
I think going with the later idea is probably the cheapest option so far, until of course someone ultimately makes an after market flywheel specifically for this setup.
One way to Get this transmission in and working is with the Tilton twin disc setup for no other reasons than it being lighter, it has a much lower moment of Inertia, and it is able to hold more power than a typical single disc setup. I am planning on making this spacer in the next two weeks and hopefully testing this setup to see how easy I can make it for everyone else.
but again I think the best recipe for bolting a Z33/Z34 trans to a JZ would be:
Automatic Flexplate
Intermediate Spacer
Button flywheel (7.25")
multi-disc clutch system/basket
Throwout bearing.
Also you will need to shorten up the shifter linkage bracket and the actual shifter linkage itself.
Transmission mount.
Drive shaft
Initially you will be putting up more money for the clutch system but at a fraction of the cost as a typical V160 clutch setup..
let me know if you have any questions,
Thanks,
Brett
Hey Mike,
I've been flooded with questions for this swap, which is why it has been taking me so long to respond.
There are a few different ways to approach the dilemma of getting this transmission on to this engine and finding a clutch system that works with everything..
First off with the Z33/Z34 transmission the splines on the input shaft start alot further back than a normal manual gear box, which means a few things.
1) The splines on the clutch disc have to reach the splines on the input shaft(Obviously) in order to get this whole Idea to workout.
2) With the addition of the adapter plate you have an additional distance to cover.
3)cost
4)hold a decent amount of horse power.
There are a few different options that people have thought up over the years:
Make a new flywheel that bolts to the 2JZ crank and spaces out the clutch disc the right amount to get proper clutch disc engagement, or use an automatic 2JZ flexplate coupled with a spacer that holds a button flywheel onto it that gets the proper amount of spacing that also keeps a decently low moment of Inertia.
I think going with the later idea is probably the cheapest option so far, until of course someone ultimately makes an after market flywheel specifically for this setup.
One way to Get this transmission in and working is with the Tilton twin disc setup for no other reasons than it being lighter, it has a much lower moment of Inertia, and it is able to hold more power than a typical single disc setup. I am planning on making this spacer in the next two weeks and hopefully testing this setup to see how easy I can make it for everyone else.
but again I think the best recipe for bolting a Z33/Z34 trans to a JZ would be:
Automatic Flexplate
Intermediate Spacer
Button flywheel (7.25")
multi-disc clutch system/basket
Throwout bearing.
Also you will need to shorten up the shifter linkage bracket and the actual shifter linkage itself.
Transmission mount.
Drive shaft
Initially you will be putting up more money for the clutch system but at a fraction of the cost as a typical V160 clutch setup..
let me know if you have any questions,
Thanks,
Brett
05-12-2012, 04:17 PM
#34
so i went to the garage and took the rear end out, dropped the new NISMO LSD in and then painted it all up!
motor will be back from the machine shop monday, the rest is off to be ballanced...im hoping it will all be back from the shop by the weekend so i can start putting everything back together!!!!
motor will be back from the machine shop monday, the rest is off to be ballanced...im hoping it will all be back from the shop by the weekend so i can start putting everything back together!!!!
05-14-2012, 05:44 PM
#35
I saw this little do-dad but I'm not 100% sure how that works and if some kind of spacer is required for the flywheel/pressure plate to make up for the adapter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300695434945...#ht_974wt_1270
What're you using for motor mounts? Are you going through the CANBUS system to get the stock gauge cluster to work or are you plugging them up with aftermarket ones?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300695434945...#ht_974wt_1270
What're you using for motor mounts? Are you going through the CANBUS system to get the stock gauge cluster to work or are you plugging them up with aftermarket ones?
as for motor mounts, NSN Garage is building me a set of new mounts since the ones built by the last shop were very rough and just scared me...
NSN has also been building intake manifolds and fuel rails for 350z's, supras, and eclipses (as well as getting into alot of other motor types)...so i am going to have them build me a fuel rail, intake mani and im thinking about a fuel cell as well....
Last edited by travismaser; 05-14-2012 at 05:48 PM.
what do you think!? 
