Anybody See That Nismo Article?
03-19-2004, 05:14 AM
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Anybody See That Nismo Article?
i think it was in scc. they put like $15-20k of nismo mods into a stock z and made like 10 hp. intake, cams, headers, exhaust. only trapped a couple mph higher and only lost a tenth in the 1/4 mile. wtf.
03-19-2004, 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by TheBigShow
there was a lot of crap; like a couple dozen things they put on it. still though, that is some ****** gains.
there was a lot of crap; like a couple dozen things they put on it. still though, that is some ****** gains.
03-19-2004, 09:46 PM
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The Braking portion of the test was also disappointing for NISMO fans...
The stock Z had the best braking numbers across the board... The more money they spent adding NISMO brake parts, the worse the braking numbers got...
Example:
Stock 80-0 (202ft)
R-Tune 80-0 (213ft)
I bet we'll see a bunch of NISMO parts on ebay really soon...
The stock Z had the best braking numbers across the board... The more money they spent adding NISMO brake parts, the worse the braking numbers got...
Example:
Stock 80-0 (202ft)
R-Tune 80-0 (213ft)
I bet we'll see a bunch of NISMO parts on ebay really soon...
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dont the cams get about 13 and the headers 10 and the cai like 2, the exhaust 6, and the high flows 7. Thats about 30. Give or take that should be 20 at least at the wheels. I dont get their numbers.
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Only goes to show how little actual science there can be in the aftermarket. HP gains are so variable depending on the circumstances of testing. A lot of retail is based on brand image.
Having said that, I'd like a Nismo exhaust.
Having said that, I'd like a Nismo exhaust.
03-20-2004, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by mofoz
dont the cams get about 13 and the headers 10 and the cai like 2, the exhaust 6, and the high flows 7. Thats about 30. Give or take that should be 20 at least at the wheels. I dont get their numbers.
dont the cams get about 13 and the headers 10 and the cai like 2, the exhaust 6, and the high flows 7. Thats about 30. Give or take that should be 20 at least at the wheels. I dont get their numbers.
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03-21-2004, 03:39 PM
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OK a lot of these statements are messed up. Your calculating the cost of such things as body kits and comparing it to HP increases, that's not just at all. Secondly, these test were on cali **** gas. Looks like no one paid attention to the text just the pictures.
Intake, exhaust, headers, cams were the only mods that increased hp, and I think the only thing that would help straight line acceleration was that of the LSD but yall already knew that because everyone read the article, they also mentioned that the LSD was not dialed in correctly.
Intake, exhaust, headers, cams were the only mods that increased hp, and I think the only thing that would help straight line acceleration was that of the LSD but yall already knew that because everyone read the article, they also mentioned that the LSD was not dialed in correctly.
03-21-2004, 03:43 PM
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I get Cali **** gas out here in AZ. 91 octane. I gained 15 (dyno proven) with the Borla exhaust and Injen Intake on pump gas. Moral of the story, stay away from Nismo.
03-21-2004, 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Drag Limited
OK a lot of these statements are messed up. Your calculating the cost of such things as body kits and comparing it to HP increases, that's not just at all. Secondly, these test were on cali **** gas. Looks like no one paid attention to the text just the pictures.
Intake, exhaust, headers, cams were the only mods that increased hp, and I think the only thing that would help straight line acceleration was that of the LSD but yall already knew that because everyone read the article, they also mentioned that the LSD was not dialed in correctly.
OK a lot of these statements are messed up. Your calculating the cost of such things as body kits and comparing it to HP increases, that's not just at all. Secondly, these test were on cali **** gas. Looks like no one paid attention to the text just the pictures.
Intake, exhaust, headers, cams were the only mods that increased hp, and I think the only thing that would help straight line acceleration was that of the LSD but yall already knew that because everyone read the article, they also mentioned that the LSD was not dialed in correctly.
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03-21-2004, 04:52 PM
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Road and Track November 2003
Road and Track Magazine - November 2003 Issue
They tested 4 tuned 350Zs, and to me the most interesting was the Motorex 350Z. It had JWT cams, flywheel and Pop Charger and new wheels and C-West Bodykit (and it had the STOCK EXHAUST). At the test track it did 0-60 in 5.1 and 1/4 at 13.7@104.6. This compared extremely well to the Stillen SMZ's (supercharged) numbers: 5.3 and 13.8@104.8.
They also tested a GReddy TT at the same time and it did 5.2 and 13.4@108.1. For comparison, their stock 350Z did 5.8 and 14.4@99.7.
For my money, and driveability and reliability (peace of mind) - NA is the way to go, particularly with the JWT parts. Imagine what would happen if they had also redone the headers, cats and full exhaust...
They tested 4 tuned 350Zs, and to me the most interesting was the Motorex 350Z. It had JWT cams, flywheel and Pop Charger and new wheels and C-West Bodykit (and it had the STOCK EXHAUST). At the test track it did 0-60 in 5.1 and 1/4 at 13.7@104.6. This compared extremely well to the Stillen SMZ's (supercharged) numbers: 5.3 and 13.8@104.8.
They also tested a GReddy TT at the same time and it did 5.2 and 13.4@108.1. For comparison, their stock 350Z did 5.8 and 14.4@99.7.
For my money, and driveability and reliability (peace of mind) - NA is the way to go, particularly with the JWT parts. Imagine what would happen if they had also redone the headers, cats and full exhaust...
03-22-2004, 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by TheBigShow
lol; wtf. u'd b happy with 10hp from $2500-3000 in performance mods? i'm not dissin nismo stuff, but in this case they didn't do *****. dizamn; i just asked if anyone saw it .
lol; wtf. u'd b happy with 10hp from $2500-3000 in performance mods? i'm not dissin nismo stuff, but in this case they didn't do *****. dizamn; i just asked if anyone saw it
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Spending money on cars to begin with usually will not justify itself and I could easily put three grand in a car via full exhaust and intake.
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03-22-2004, 08:10 AM
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That is a load of crap, I am running NISMO CAI, NISMO Exhaust, NISMO Cams, Helix Test Pipes, UR Crank Pulley and Grounding Kit and we have dynoed twice, the 1st dyno we pulled before changing some of the buckets in the valvetrain and we pulled 267rwhp, the 2nd we pulled 2 weeks ago after the buckets were changed out and we dropped to 257 rwhp, and the reason for the 10hp drop according to the guys running dyno is that the guy that ran the 1st dyno did not do SAE or something to that effect, either way I will go with the 2nd dyno which is still a 22 rwhp gain and this is w/o any computer changes, in fact at 6,600 we were still climbing and bumped rev limiter. I would say that whoever gave you your info needs to get the facts straight. BTW, the JWT car that they tested they were estimating the HP at the crank to be 350 but no dyno was shown, but the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times were the real deal.