I have been in contact w/ a F1, yes formula one, engine management company in reguards to developing a ECU for the 350Z. I will supply interested parties w/ more information. This ecu will allow us to retain, and control, throttle-by-wire, variable cam timing, etc..

I am unable at this time to disclose the manufacture.

Expected cost will be $5-12K depending on options and datalogging. A complete systems will be available: ecu, cable, wiring harness, ignition coils, F1 injectors, etc...

These guys are serious about devloping an ECU for the 350Z. Please do not respond to this message unless you are financially capable to pursue this endevor.

Right now this is just testing the waters to see if there is sufficent demand for this product. NO money will exchange hands until product has been developed.

Please PM or email for information or to be added to the information list.

 

Nowadays most F1 teams write their own software, hence the ridiculous budgets.

 

sounds intriguing, I'd definitely be curious to hear more details as they become available..

just curious though.. what about the 350Z makes them so interested in developing an ECU? Why haven't they targeted other sports cars?

 

Rivet:
I'm not going to play the guessing game w/ the manufacturer. Sorry.
Software will be included w/ the system. What they are willing to do is write the application specific software for the 350Z. IE. Throttle-by-wire, Variable cam timing, using stock Cam/Crank signals, etc...

It's not just the 350Z that they are developing a "model specific" ecu. They believe the market for a top level ecu may exist here.

Now it falls on me to convince them the market exists.

 

Sorry for asking this...but are you for real? $5000 to $12,000 for an ECU?? Or did you mean $500-$1200

 

$5,000 to $12,000+

No playing games here.

Expensive yes, but when your in a competition setting where every 1/2hp counts. Money well spent.

If this is too expensive for your budget, please don't post complaining about the price. This is top-level equipment for top-level customers.

 

Not complaining...just try to be realistic here. The only people that will be willing to pay that much are professional racers with a really big budget. I would be surprised if there will be interest at that price.

Can they make a scaled down version in the $1000-$2000 range? I bet there would be strong demand at that price-point.

 

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Can they make a scaled down version in the $1000-$2000 range? I bet there would be strong demand at that price-point. [/B][/QUOTE]

Get Real
How can you scale down VTC, FBW throttle ?
That is the difficult part to manage properly. Any number of stand alone ECU constructers can manage timing & fuel.
Motec aready have available a product that can do the job on the Z but it would be around the same price as what Underpressure is estimating.
Its my guess that the other major Australian ECU maker Autronic is the company involved. The English Co Pectel is also capable of managing the cams & throttle but they cost considarably more than Aussie Motec & Autronic

 

anyway to narrow that range down a bit? I mean, thats a pretty huge spread. I guess the all important question becomes how far into this are they (if at all)? If not yet started, what is the earliest projected date?

 

Hasn't Pectel already released something for the Zed? I'm sure I saw an ECU from them, maybe it was just a reflash?

There aren't that many top tier aftermarket ECU manufacturers around. I'd agree with Nathans guess of Autronic.

Re the price keep in mind it's for an ECU, harness, injectors, software etc. Not too bad IMO if it delivers.

 

Get Real
How can you scale down VTC, FBW throttle ?
That is the difficult part to manage properly. Any number of stand alone ECU constructers can manage timing & fuel.
Motec aready have available a product that can do the job on the Z but it would be around the same price as what Underpressure is estimating.
Its my guess that the other major Australian ECU maker Autronic is the company involved. The English Co Pectel is also capable of managing the cams & throttle but they cost considarably more than Aussie Motec & Autronic [/B][/QUOTE]

OK, I'm normally a pretty nice guy......but go blow yourself. By scaled down...I meant a normal stand alone, with the appropriate harness and sensors to make it all work. That's all.

I am out of this thread. Good luck with this!

 

Gq_26 has some of the most informative posts in the FI section always trying to help everyone. Why are you guys jumping down his throat???

 

Well, I'm guessing the best use for this level of technology would be for some serious mod tuning. So, with proprietary software, how does one go about tuning? Would it be something that any competent tuning shop can handle, or would you need special software and what not?

-D'oh!

 

I agree, Gq_26 is a very helpfull & informative poster but it was he that said we had to be realistic & I don't think he was being realistic in thinking he could get a full stand alone ECU with full tuning capabilities to manage Timing, fuel, Vtc & Fbw throttle with all harnesses & sensors for $1000 to $2000. Hence my comment get real.
Now what part of myself do I have to blow?
If it's where I think you mean , I've tried but I can't reach

 

The guy who you are replying to races the 350z at the Bathurst 24hr race and the national GTP here in Australia.

I think you're definitly lost in the translation and way out of your depth mate! 10 grand + for a race application ECU is pretty standard.

Read it again and you'll see that it's the drive-by-wire and VTC that the std ECU do not support BUT race cars with built engines NEED to control. I hope thats clear as mud for ya!

 

come end of this summer and into fall I know of 2 ecu's being released that support drive by wire and the VTC that alss have full standalone fuel and ignition for well under the $5k mark

Underpessure - being a vendor here with a good pulse on the customer base, I'd suggest bailing on offering it for sale to people - you won't get 5 qualified leads for a setup like this on the board. Sure, you'll have person after person ask you to PM them with details....all to no end. I see next to no market for a unit like this at that price range...it's out of reach of just about everyone, and frankly, overkill for them as well IMHO.

Hope it works out for you though!

 

Dude, AEM is already working on the 350z... Anybody that knows about the AEM Management system knows that you can virtually do anything with it. I.E. Have full control of your tuning capabilities that you really need. Not only that, AEM is known for its simplicity of "plug n play" system so that you dont need to spend on rewiring everything to make things work. I highly doubt you will get any or if even one interested buyer even at $4,000. Good luck not trying to flame you just giving you hard facts. Just like if you were to come here and say Im getting a custom turbo kit from "F1" team la la la la and its going to cost $15K... Sure it my fly if NOBODY had turbos for the 350z but the fact that you can buy affordable systems for under 6K. Now if you can prove to me that the 5K is worth it and why I should get it over a $1,500 AEM Standalone im all ears until than good luck

 

Zuff, don't be to harsh.
Gq_26 is quite knowlageable & I agree with him that there would be strong demand, but I just know it can't be done at his target price.

Z1 I also agree that there would be little intrest at UnderPressures price.

The Motec unit is being used by The Performance Nissan sponsored 350Z in Grand Am.

The Pectel unit is used by Nismo in South African engineered Paris Dakar VQ35 engined 4WD Paris Daker Rally Pathfinders. It is also used in the majority of Nissan engined ALMS cars.
Last time I checked the price for the hardware was around 12000 English Pounds.

The Italian co Magnetti Marelli do the ECU for the VQ35 engined Formula Renault V6 (Fran Am in the US)

 

Yeah, That's simply too expensive for a hobbyist like myself. I'll wait until some of the other manufacturers adapt their units to work with the Z.

 

id be interested if it were at or under the 5k mark....but 5to 12k+ is definatly a little to rich for me....