Upgrading to HID
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Upgrading to HID
First off, do you guys think i should upgrade to 6,000, 8,000 or 10,000? The other colors are out of the question. Also, i THINK (judging from the pictures) that 6,000 looks a little more teal than blue, so i may have to pass on that particular one for that reason as well. Second: can i sell my existing bulbs & ballasts on eBay? How much are they worth and will they fit other cars, or only the Z?
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i would take the Kelvin with a grain of salt
in my experience, and ive used alot of different hid kits, a 6000K globe from one manufacturer looks totally different to anothers
i get my kits now from xenondepot.com. I first started with a 6500K kit, but they were too purple, no blue at all, and purple light on a black road just doesnt light up well. Im on the philips ultinon 6000K kit now, color output is more white with a tinge of purple, slightly more output too. And the latest philips kits that xenondepot sell come with the new gen slimline ballasts, very high quality kit and all philips components http://xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=13
Im thinking of going to philips 4300K globes now because im curious as to how much brighter they would be compared to 6000K
on the upside, the halogen headlights do produce a good beam, very wide and with a very decent cutoff line. Heres some pics of the 6000K, thats not the true color as every time i take a pic different ambient light adjusts the color of the xenons on the camera, but u can see the beam pattern and cutoff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2586.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2585.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2572.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2571.jpg
note here car is jacked up and headlights werent adjusted. That would be the closest pic to the true color output
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2570.jpg
6500K output....notice the clean cutoff on the sidewall
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2509.jpg
in my experience, and ive used alot of different hid kits, a 6000K globe from one manufacturer looks totally different to anothers
i get my kits now from xenondepot.com. I first started with a 6500K kit, but they were too purple, no blue at all, and purple light on a black road just doesnt light up well. Im on the philips ultinon 6000K kit now, color output is more white with a tinge of purple, slightly more output too. And the latest philips kits that xenondepot sell come with the new gen slimline ballasts, very high quality kit and all philips components http://xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=13
Im thinking of going to philips 4300K globes now because im curious as to how much brighter they would be compared to 6000K
on the upside, the halogen headlights do produce a good beam, very wide and with a very decent cutoff line. Heres some pics of the 6000K, thats not the true color as every time i take a pic different ambient light adjusts the color of the xenons on the camera, but u can see the beam pattern and cutoff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2586.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2585.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2572.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2571.jpg
note here car is jacked up and headlights werent adjusted. That would be the closest pic to the true color output
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2570.jpg
6500K output....notice the clean cutoff on the sidewall
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/125_2509.jpg
Last edited by TiPIACE; 10-25-2005 at 02:26 PM.
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Originally Posted by d!abolic
First off, do you guys think i should upgrade to 6,000, 8,000 or 10,000? The other colors are out of the question. Also, i THINK (judging from the pictures) that 6,000 looks a little more teal than blue, so i may have to pass on that particular one for that reason as well. Second: can i sell my existing bulbs & ballasts on eBay? How much are they worth and will they fit other cars, or only the Z?
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^10,000K iis alot less than 2/3 4300K output
a philips ultinon 6000K globe has 2400lumens vs a 4300K 3200lumens - that's 3/4
id say 10,000K is around halogen output, maybe less because yellow light on a black road is easier to see than navy blue/purple on black
a philips ultinon 6000K globe has 2400lumens vs a 4300K 3200lumens - that's 3/4
id say 10,000K is around halogen output, maybe less because yellow light on a black road is easier to see than navy blue/purple on black
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I've got all the numbers, and 8000k is about 2x the brightness of halogen, with 6000k being around 3x. I'm guessing 10000k is around 1.5x, which still isn't bad. What i'm concerned about though, is the color. Like someone already mentioned, different manufacturers' bulbs with the same kelvin ratings look different. What i want is a BLUE light; not bluish-teal, not bluish-purple, not bluish-white, but BLUE. Where, oh where do i get this?
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Originally Posted by d!abolic
I've got all the numbers, and 8000k is about 2x the brightness of halogen, with 6000k being around 3x. I'm guessing 10000k is around 1.5x, which still isn't bad. What i'm concerned about though, is the color. Like someone already mentioned, different manufacturers' bulbs with the same kelvin ratings look different. What i want is a BLUE light; not bluish-teal, not bluish-purple, not bluish-white, but BLUE. Where, oh where do i get this?
The color everyone is looking for is a factor of xenon projectors NOT the bulbs/capsules. Don't waste your time and money on anything other than oem phillips capsules.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
6000K is about 1.5X as bright as halogen, 7000K is about on par with halogen, anything 7000K+ is below halogen output (lumens)
4300k = 3200lm
6000k = 2800lm
8000k = 2500lm
12000k = 2100lm
halogen = 900lm?
different shots...
5000
8000
10000
so is there a difference? yea... is one hid bulb 2-3x brighter than the other? hell no!
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Originally Posted by Zivman
Prove to me that an 8000K capsule puts out 2100 lumens.