I plan on doing HIN this year but I know for sure I will not win hell might not place at all because now I will be placed in the wild class so I will be going for fun and looking at all the females. hehe

 

My best advice is to become a member of NCCA and get yourself the rules handbook. It will outline for you in some detail the point scoring system. Membership will also entitle you to get a copy of your scoresheet which will be helpful in the future if you really want to play at the HIN level. Please keep in mind, in the end it is subjective and based upon a judges opinion. Uniqueness and originality (custom one off stuff) will certainly help you place as will the "theme" and presentation of the car. Bottom line with HIN is that it is very competitive. Good luck! You have a very well put together car.

 

i seroiusly do not see the point of HIN anymore. Like mentioned before, the same car, same people always wins. Its predetermined. So with really rare chance of winning, you put your car on show, exposing all your car's goodies to thousands of people where many of the attendees steal cars! hahaha. Many of us who enter for the heck or it or hopes to win drive that car as a daily driver so it wouldn't be my surprise to see my car one day not on my driveway or my glass broken. The girls there, yes they are beautiful but don't expect to personally meet them or walk away with their number. They are all show and will pass you up like nothing. I can get more attention from a strip than a car show model. Not to mention the hundreds of young bucks trying to get their autographs.

Lastly, HIN's style is to wild, not into the crazy sound system and bazillion TV screens. I like my cars clean with tastefully mods.

Perhaps im just grumpy today but thats my opionon on HIN

 

Ron, I have to politely disagree. I am a member of the NCCA and have the handbook. Yes it does describe the general points categories true. But, I have asked repeatedly at multiple shows for my scoresheet AND I have written requests after each show and I have NEVER gotten any reply or anything from anyone associated with the NCCA. At the shows I have always been told they are not allowed to show me my grading sheets.

I have to say the NOPI judging is at least working with me to review their process. They placed my friends Skyline in an American class and he was wondering why he did not at lest place at Nationals. After discussions with the judges, they reviewed their score sheets, realized the mistake and have already corrected it. He got 1st in his class. That is how it should be done. I have gotten nothing but blowoffs from NCCA and HIN and I have been in 3 of their judged shows so far.
--B

 

Brent, I understand and only speak from my personal experience. Let me also elaborate. I am speaking of NCCA Gold Membership which does entitle you to your scoresheet. I requested a copy of my scoresheet and prompty rec'd it from Andy Goodman. I certainly did not agree with some of the scoring but I realize no one else feels the same about my car as I do. As you and I discussed recently, I am not a fan of HIN. IMHO, it is much more of a "nightclub" event with a car show thrown in for fun. It was extremely dark and noisy and very difficult to really judge cars in that environment. But that does not take anything away from the winners. Those are some very nice cars that won down here in Orlando and major props to them.

 

+1 on that one.. show is rigged.. you have to know someone or be connected to win..

 

Ron, I did not realize there was a "Premier Membership” Just another way to make it exclusive and help out the good ole boys in their club….

I agree with you that the best way (and most fun) is to have the shows outdoors which gives the best light on the cars, the stage music is not as loud/deafening and it is more of a car club feel about it. Family atmosphere if you will versus the HIN corporate feel.

Yea, there are definitely some hot cars in the Area down here and I don’t want to take away from any of these winners. I am of course making generalizations about a # of things in my statements.
--B

 

I completely agree.

 

Very well put... It is all about them making money and having their friends win.. The class qualifications are rediclous. In Orlando they had Fully molded and modded cars in the mild catagory, only cause they did not have NOS.

 

IMO is based on who you know based on what your ride has.

 

heres what you do...

1. Rent a trailer so you dont have to drive your car there and it stays clean
2. Rent some hookers (for modeling and entertainment after the show)
3. Offer the judges some very good liquor

If that doesnt work.. i dont know what will.

 

When I got started I paid for all my modsand wrenched for myself and only one once... (4dr award) but it was a different time then... 2002 was a completely different show and different market.

Today's HIN event is an untamible monster that demands high budgets and low morals. I personally am really leaning towards the smaller (regional) shows and outdoor events like Nisei and NOPI, the corporate show like HIN never have the community feel like the smaller shows....

 

if you want to win HIN... sell your soul and sell out your ideas.



sorry it sounds harsh but when Greg at Injected and I sat down and thought up the 430Z we did it to represent his company and what we could do... not for the judges and it cost us throphies but we still kept the respect. Alot of times the judges go around the night before and hand pick who they think should win before they ever talk with the owners (sometimes you can get yourself extra points, but most times it's yada, yada).

it's been said a million times and a few times in thsi thread... if you show, show for yourself not for throphies... I love to show and love to go to the shows but I have to bbuild cars that I would drive.

 

Very good ideas... But at that point I might as well spend that money on hookers for myself.. and make my own award... LOL.

As for trailering my car, dude I love driving my Baby WAY to much to trailer her. We have a pretty good relationship... I buy her everything she needs to stay pretty and give her the best alcohol I can find (when I don't she gets made and blows up..) In return she does what I ask of her with little complaint and beats the **** out of anything on the road that dares comment on her fat looking rear.

 

Hey brent where are your volks?

 

Damn, that was quick... they already put pics up huh..?
The Volks are sitting in Ryan's Garage. The Toyo's got corded on the AKA Rally and I did not have the time or money to get new ones put on.
I am running my 18" RP03 Enkei's w/DR's for the moment... Let me tell you... getting caught in a torrential down pour on 75 coming down FL had my butt hole puckered and me praying for a bit of good luck... Sometimes I thought I was a fish the backend was swishing back and forth soo damn much as the Semi Trucks passed me... YIKES!

 

WOW and you keep on getting it didnt you? ha

 

From my experience they look for people they know!

Edit: I think HIN has a traveling tour, if you look at the event coverage all the same cars are there! My boy won at the Atlantic City, but it was 4th place, 4D!

TSG

 

Well ****..... reading all of this, I guess I am screwed to even place at HIN.... I am hoping my new ICE will help out a bit.... So I guess hiring the model can't hurt then...

Sounds really discuraging for us "normal guys" who spend alot of time and $ trying to compete with some of these odds... And without alot of these "normal" cars in the show there would only be a handful of cars entering and no money to be made really...

 

Yep, that is why they make up these categories to make the Average Joe think he has a good chance to win.
Now i am not saying your average guy has no chance, it is just that you fight an uphill battle. The best strategy would be to buy a car no one modifies or ever sees at shows. Then you build it up. this way you don’t have any competition