Your view on paddle shift???
Originally Posted by 06dieselZ
Plz enlighten me as to why it is a pain to track?
Why is everyone getting all pissed about in dis fread
Originally Posted by cc1012
theres a black box in it so if you change the ECU they know and if you wanna go over 115 you have to enter circuit mode which then void your warranty.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
^+1 Exactly! These idiots obviously have not seen how F1 drivers shift . . .
My point was the cost of tracking a GTR. Having a bad day are we?
Originally Posted by Master Shake
Paddle shifting is pretty much the same thing as the auto-stick that has been around for at lest five years now, and the next step after the ability to downshift an AT by slamming the gas pedal down. Kind of gives the AT guys the feeling of a little more control, I guess. A good question/study would be to find out how many people with paddle shifters/auto-sticks actually use them after the first few weeks or so. 
But I don't think they will ever completely get rid of manual transmissions. It might move more into a specialized/enthusiast role, but I think at least some demand will keep it available for quite a while.
But I don't think they will ever completely get rid of manual transmissions. It might move more into a specialized/enthusiast role, but I think at least some demand will keep it available for quite a while.
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Originally Posted by NickRaine78
Japanese Market GTR's
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Originally Posted by 06dieselZ
thats only in JP noob
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Originally Posted by cc1012
First of all you have a 100 posts so your still a noob as well. And second it hasnt been confirmed yet whether or not the car will have the limiter or not. It will def have the black box. But i wouldnt put it past nissan putting the limiter on being that none of the past skylines have made it here.
but yeah nissan is not gonna dumb enough to put the limiter on U.S gtrs
So I have an AT Z so that means I can't reply? No offence dude, but EFF that! I've driven manuals for years, and my last car was an 06 Tiburon that I had for 2 years and was a 6 speed manual. The only reason I have an auto Z is because I couldnt find a manual roadster in the year I looked for one.
Now, as for my opinion of paddle shift... compared to a manual, I agree it sucks. I'd take a proper manual with a clutch any day over paddle shift. I don't think it will completely phase out manual, ever. There may be a majority of cars that are primarily paddleshift, and some cars that wont offer a proper manual, but I think there will always be some cars with proper manual available.
If you have no choice in the matter, and its paddle shift vs. the auto stick... i'd take the paddles for sure. It's better for me because you dont have to take your hands off the wheel and it just seems much more responsive. I dont know about you guys but i've played a lot of racing games on my computer with a Logitech wheel and i'm used to the paddle shift, and frankly I like it. But if I had the option, i'd still take a proper manual over it.
BTW the usefulness of teh paddleshift is entirely based on the transmission AND the computer and how it handles it. If anyone has ever driven a VW Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox, when in manual mode the damn thing still shifts for you if you go full throttle in a gear too high for max acceleration, and it will upshift for you at redline. The Z, doesnt shift unless its absolutely necessary and I LOVE it for that. Auto may suck the fun out of it, but at least you get more control than in other auto-manual boxes.
Now, as for my opinion of paddle shift... compared to a manual, I agree it sucks. I'd take a proper manual with a clutch any day over paddle shift. I don't think it will completely phase out manual, ever. There may be a majority of cars that are primarily paddleshift, and some cars that wont offer a proper manual, but I think there will always be some cars with proper manual available.
If you have no choice in the matter, and its paddle shift vs. the auto stick... i'd take the paddles for sure. It's better for me because you dont have to take your hands off the wheel and it just seems much more responsive. I dont know about you guys but i've played a lot of racing games on my computer with a Logitech wheel and i'm used to the paddle shift, and frankly I like it. But if I had the option, i'd still take a proper manual over it.
BTW the usefulness of teh paddleshift is entirely based on the transmission AND the computer and how it handles it. If anyone has ever driven a VW Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox, when in manual mode the damn thing still shifts for you if you go full throttle in a gear too high for max acceleration, and it will upshift for you at redline. The Z, doesnt shift unless its absolutely necessary and I LOVE it for that. Auto may suck the fun out of it, but at least you get more control than in other auto-manual boxes.
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Originally Posted by cc1012
theres also a black box in the car that if you tune it or change anything in the ECU so when it goes in to service theyll know you played with it. And theres a speed limiter of 115. do some research
You serious????? wow.......
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So I have an AT Z so that means I can't reply? No offence dude, but EFF that! I've driven manuals for years, and my last car was an 06 Tiburon that I had for 2 years and was a 6 speed manual. The only reason I have an auto Z is because I couldnt find a manual roadster in the year I looked for one.
Now, as for my opinion of paddle shift... compared to a manual, I agree it sucks. I'd take a proper manual with a clutch any day over paddle shift. I don't think it will completely phase out manual, ever. There may be a majority of cars that are primarily paddleshift, and some cars that wont offer a proper manual, but I think there will always be some cars with proper manual available.
If you have no choice in the matter, and its paddle shift vs. the auto stick... i'd take the paddles for sure. It's better for me because you dont have to take your hands off the wheel and it just seems much more responsive. I dont know about you guys but i've played a lot of racing games on my computer with a Logitech wheel and i'm used to the paddle shift, and frankly I like it. But if I had the option, i'd still take a proper manual over it.
BTW the usefulness of teh paddleshift is entirely based on the transmission AND the computer and how it handles it. If anyone has ever driven a VW Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox, when in manual mode the damn thing still shifts for you if you go full throttle in a gear too high for max acceleration, and it will upshift for you at redline. The Z, doesnt shift unless its absolutely necessary and I LOVE it for that. Auto may suck the fun out of it, but at least you get more control than in other auto-manual boxes.
Now, as for my opinion of paddle shift... compared to a manual, I agree it sucks. I'd take a proper manual with a clutch any day over paddle shift. I don't think it will completely phase out manual, ever. There may be a majority of cars that are primarily paddleshift, and some cars that wont offer a proper manual, but I think there will always be some cars with proper manual available.
If you have no choice in the matter, and its paddle shift vs. the auto stick... i'd take the paddles for sure. It's better for me because you dont have to take your hands off the wheel and it just seems much more responsive. I dont know about you guys but i've played a lot of racing games on my computer with a Logitech wheel and i'm used to the paddle shift, and frankly I like it. But if I had the option, i'd still take a proper manual over it.
BTW the usefulness of teh paddleshift is entirely based on the transmission AND the computer and how it handles it. If anyone has ever driven a VW Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox, when in manual mode the damn thing still shifts for you if you go full throttle in a gear too high for max acceleration, and it will upshift for you at redline. The Z, doesnt shift unless its absolutely necessary and I LOVE it for that. Auto may suck the fun out of it, but at least you get more control than in other auto-manual boxes.
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
^+1 Exactly! These idiots obviously have not seen how F1 drivers shift . . .
i think this thread is more about peoples opinion on paddle shifters, more in a daily driving situation, not in an F1 situation hahaha. that being said, paddle shifting for daily driving is boring, and that's of course my opinion. give me a 6 speed any day.
Originally Posted by will350z
I can see this turning into another AT vs. MT thread, please close it...
I love my automatic.
Originally Posted by cc1012
not really this is more of a REAL paddle shift vs. Traditional Manual thread. whether or not you can see traditional manual dying out.
Originally Posted by Doba
I have a view on paddle shifting.. and that is that 99% of the time people just leave it in D and dont even use them