Your view on paddle shift???
04-09-2008, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cc1012
As we start to see more an more cars start to come out with a paddle shift option, whats your view on it vs. a standard manual?? Do you like it or dislike it? And do you think that it will start to phase your traditional manual? (please only people who drive manual all the time, NO AT guys opinions sorry)
Me personally I think paddle shift is the gayest thing since FWD. The few cars i have driven and ridden in it with I thought were terrible. I feel out of touch with car, and it makes the car feel boring to drive. Sure it shifts faster and might make the car faster on the road course but how often is the average driver there. If the traditional manual fades out I will not be a happy driver.
Me personally I think paddle shift is the gayest thing since FWD. The few cars i have driven and ridden in it with I thought were terrible. I feel out of touch with car, and it makes the car feel boring to drive. Sure it shifts faster and might make the car faster on the road course but how often is the average driver there. If the traditional manual fades out I will not be a happy driver.
..seriously use your brain for something useful, instead of trying bash on something new for us AT's....go play a video game or ask your mom to drive you to the store in your "mt" Z........
04-09-2008, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cc1012
As we start to see more an more cars start to come out with a paddle shift option, whats your view on it vs. a standard manual?? Do you like it or dislike it? And do you think that it will start to phase your traditional manual? (please only people who drive manual all the time, NO AT guys opinions sorry)
Me personally I think paddle shift is the gayest thing since FWD. The few cars i have driven and ridden in it with I thought were terrible. I feel out of touch with car, and it makes the car feel boring to drive. Sure it shifts faster and might make the car faster on the road course but how often is the average driver there. If the traditional manual fades out I will not be a happy driver.
Me personally I think paddle shift is the gayest thing since FWD. The few cars i have driven and ridden in it with I thought were terrible. I feel out of touch with car, and it makes the car feel boring to drive. Sure it shifts faster and might make the car faster on the road course but how often is the average driver there. If the traditional manual fades out I will not be a happy driver.
well, i personally think that people that start threads like this are a waste of forum space. considering you are basing your whole argument on a personal opinion that is very biased. just another AT vs MT thread full of personal opinion and no fact. if you do not like it, do not drive or buy one just do the whole forum a favor and keep your opinions to yourself. thank you very much.
04-09-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cc1012
theres also a black box in the car that if you tune it or change anything in the ECU so when it goes in to service theyll know you played with it. And theres a speed limiter of 115. do some research
obviously you haven't, that is why you keep making these opinionated posts based on speculation and no fact.
04-09-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
That's not my understanding of paddle shift. There is no “drive” correct?
It might be changing with newer sports cars... but I think there will usually be an auto mode.
04-09-2008, 06:22 PM
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"Flappy paddle gearboxes" are actually quite fun in the beginning, but the fun factor definitely wears off and can't compare with the driving experience of a traditional manual.
F1 style gearboxes are great at the track and other spirited driving, but I much prefer a traditional manual for daily use. There are lots of converts out there though. People who have driven traditional manuals for 20+ years who are now in love with the new gearboxes.
I use to think paddle shifts in automatics was a fad, but I drove an AMG car with paddles not to long ago, and I must admit, I liked it a lot. For many automatic cars though, the paddles are out of place and as mentioned, unneeded as the car will be left in DRIVE most of the time. Another point, is that if there is a huge delay when shifting an automatic gearbox, the paddles are even more unnecessary.
F1 style gearboxes are great at the track and other spirited driving, but I much prefer a traditional manual for daily use. There are lots of converts out there though. People who have driven traditional manuals for 20+ years who are now in love with the new gearboxes.
I use to think paddle shifts in automatics was a fad, but I drove an AMG car with paddles not to long ago, and I must admit, I liked it a lot. For many automatic cars though, the paddles are out of place and as mentioned, unneeded as the car will be left in DRIVE most of the time. Another point, is that if there is a huge delay when shifting an automatic gearbox, the paddles are even more unnecessary.
04-09-2008, 06:27 PM
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Autos of course have Drive. F1 style trannys have a D setting as well, but only the dual clutch setups can be driven like a normal automatic.
The likes of the DSG/S-tronic in VWs and Audi, DCT in the new M3 and the "DSG" in the GT-R can be driven like any other automatic car.
With single clutch setups, the automatic mode isn't very smooth. Examples are the SMG of BMW, and the transmission in the R8 and Gallardo.
The likes of the DSG/S-tronic in VWs and Audi, DCT in the new M3 and the "DSG" in the GT-R can be driven like any other automatic car.
With single clutch setups, the automatic mode isn't very smooth. Examples are the SMG of BMW, and the transmission in the R8 and Gallardo.
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04-09-2008, 06:27 PM
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Autos with paddles are significantly different than a true paddle SMG transmission . Here'sa link for those who want to know the difference. I'm not sure if the GTR is in fact an SMG or a true auto. Ferrari's for example are the SMG variety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_gearbox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_gearbox
04-09-2008, 06:30 PM
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i thought it was DSG transmission? yea the paddle shift in most cars are crap, but most of your 100k plus sports cars are great i would personally prefer a manual but if like in the gtr its not an option, i had the chance to drive a Ferrari 360 with the f1 shift and it was great, shifted like a sport bike and not to mention FAST nothing like driving a ferrari or porsche for that matter
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04-09-2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
True manual with clutch pedal > paddle shift (auto with ps, or electronically controlled clutch) > regular auto
Id rather have a Ferrari with the standard gated shifter over the F1 system anyday......
Id rather have a Ferrari with the standard gated shifter over the F1 system anyday......
04-10-2008, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 06dieselZ
read the title of what you just linked me to douche
Japanese Market GTR's
Japanese Market GTR's
All right...so I hastily didnt read the whole article and got the wrong market/info. Is that any reason to be an a$$hole and call people names. Get a fukcing life. What are u in high school?
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04-10-2008, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NickRaine78
All right...so I hastily didnt read the whole article and got the wrong market/info. Is that any reason to be an a$$hole and call people names. Get a fukcing life. What are u in high school?
Originally Posted by NickRaine78
Having a bad day are we?
04-10-2008, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
This would have been your answer to your post above . . .
not at all, I just dont like little punks calling me names for making a mistake. Its one thing to tell someone they are incorrect, another to go around calling them a douche. Thats why I assume he is in high school because of the lack of maturity.
04-10-2008, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gregom
No most every car i've seen has a auto stick and paddle shifters, you can leave it in drive if you want, or put it in manual and use the auto stick or the paddles to shift.
It might be changing with newer sports cars... but I think there will usually be an auto mode.
It might be changing with newer sports cars... but I think there will usually be an auto mode.
04-10-2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 06dieselZ
Plz enlighten me as to why it is a pain to track?
04-10-2008, 07:23 AM
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im referring to REAL paddle shift. DSG, SMG, ect....... Buying a ferrari in paddle should be a sin. How could you not wanna feel the best gated 6sp in the world?