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Old 06-14-2008, 09:22 AM
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so, what came first, the GTR or the WEBER SPORTS front bumper? to my knowledge, the WEBER SPORTS came out way before the GTR prototype. am i wrong?
i think the Weber front bumper looks sick! i love it! but i'm tired of people saying "wow, copy of a GTR".
when my Z is finished this fall, i'll take on any factory GTR at the track, and have about 20k less in my car than the cost of the GTR. the GTR is badass for sure, but damn i love the Z!!!
Old 06-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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I remember seeing a picture of the gtr prototype back in like 2002??? i might be wrong.
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In the case of the chicken/egg issue: The chicken came definitely first, just
like Adam & Eve came before Cain & Able. Now, if you listen to Darwin, Eins-
tein, Sagan, Nietszche, etc., you'll end up confused. At any rate, whatever
we believe in, we do it by faith, so I've chosen to believe our Creator.
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Originally Posted by ZTEALTH
when my Z is finished this fall, i'll take on any factory GTR at the track, and have about 20k less in my car than the cost of the GTR.
no, you won't.
and
no, you won't
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
In the case of the chicken/egg issue: The chicken came definitely first, just
like Adam & Eve came before Cain & Able. Now, if you listen to Darwin, Eins-
tein, Sagan, Nietszche, etc., you'll end up confused. At any rate, whatever
we believe in, we do it by faith, so I've chosen to believe our Creator.
Pastor j.arnaldo has spoken !
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Originally Posted by lonewolf
no, you won't.
and
no, you won't
never mind lol
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
chicken
egg
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:31 AM
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That's m-i-n-i-s-t-e-r, Jim@. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by lonewolf
no, you won't.
and
no, you won't
yes, i will. all wheel drive will be the gtr's only advantage against my z. and that's not enough. i've seen a "built" z do faster laps than the R8 at thunderhill raceway. all he had was an intercooled turbonetics system, full stillen exhaust, cosworth heads and intake and tein suspension mods. of course tires and wheels. a 500hp Z that sticks to the track can do amazing things, don't kid yourselves.
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
In the case of the chicken/egg issue: The chicken came definitely first, just
like Adam & Eve came before Cain & Able. Now, if you listen to Darwin, Eins-
tein, Sagan, Nietszche, etc., you'll end up confused. At any rate, whatever
we believe in, we do it by faith, so I've chosen to believe our Creator.
YES!!!
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Originally Posted by ZTEALTH
yes, i will. all wheel drive will be the gtr's only advantage against my z. and that's not enough. i've seen a "built" z do faster laps than the R8 at thunderhill raceway. all he had was an intercooled turbonetics system, full stillen exhaust, cosworth heads and intake and tein suspension mods. of course tires and wheels. a 500hp Z that sticks to the track can do amazing things, don't kid yourselves.
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Right on, ZTEALTH!!!---there's GOT to believers in these threads!!!
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
In the case of the chicken/egg issue: The chicken came definitely first, just
like Adam & Eve came before Cain & Able. Now, if you listen to Darwin, Eins-
tein, Sagan, Nietszche, etc., you'll end up confused. At any rate, whatever
we believe in, we do it by faith, so I've chosen to believe our Creator.
I never really struggled with this question since time is imaginary but I did create a microcosm reenactment. I went to a deli and ordered a chicken salad sandwich for me and an egg salad sandwich for my date (to see which came first). Oddly, they came at the same time. Good enough for me.
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Originally Posted by ZTEALTH
yes, i will. all wheel drive will be the gtr's only advantage against my z. and that's not enough. i've seen a "built" z do faster laps than the R8 at thunderhill raceway. all he had was an intercooled turbonetics system, full stillen exhaust, cosworth heads and intake and tein suspension mods. of course tires and wheels. a 500hp Z that sticks to the track can do amazing things, don't kid yourselves.

dude, step away from the bong....
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Originally Posted by ZTEALTH
yes, i will. all wheel drive will be the gtr's only advantage against my z. and that's not enough. i've seen a "built" z do faster laps than the R8 at thunderhill raceway. all he had was an intercooled turbonetics system, full stillen exhaust, cosworth heads and intake and tein suspension mods. of course tires and wheels. a 500hp Z that sticks to the track can do amazing things, don't kid yourselves.
That's all I needed to see.
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ZTEALTH = fial.
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Originally Posted by gambino
ZTEALTH = fial.
all of you non believers, including gambino who can't spell 'fail', probably don't even know what vehicle holds the track record at Infinion Raceway. well, believe it or not, it's a 125cc shifter kart, A GO-KART!!!. yes, faster laps than a super bike or even steve millen's 1993 300zx imsa car. we have all seen a honda crx do a 7 sec. quarter mile too.
gtr's are great cars from what we can read in magazines, but who says a Z can't be built to smoke the gtr? it's simple vehicle dynamics, power to weight ratios. why so many unbelievers?
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Originally Posted by ZTEALTH
all of you non believers, including gambino who can't spell 'fail', probably don't even know what vehicle holds the track record at Infinion Raceway. well, believe it or not, it's a 125cc shifter kart, A GO-KART!!!. yes, faster laps than a super bike or even steve millen's 1993 300zx imsa car. we have all seen a honda crx do a 7 sec. quarter mile too.
gtr's are great cars from what we can read in magazines, but who says a Z can't be built to smoke the gtr? it's simple vehicle dynamics, power to weight ratios. why so many unbelievers?
yeah, what he said. (btw, It's "non-believers" not "un-believers")


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