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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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Well, their is a member selling HID kits right now in the private sale forum. I saw those kits on SEMA and they were the ones that impressed me the most. AT SEMA they had the whole entire kit (ballast and bulb) inside a fish tank. The bulb, and pretty much everything is WATERPROOF submerged underwater!

That was a big thing that I wanted... I have heard stories of shorting out ballast etc... Now, I bought the kit because of a lot of things

1.Manufactured in Japan (JDM!) HAHA
2.1 Year Warranty (Thumbs Up!)
3.Water Proof COMPLETELY
4.BRIGHTNESS!
5.NO FADING (CHEAP HID KITS CHANGE COLOR FROM ONE SIDE)

So lets go with the install now..

Overall, install was VERY EASY (THANKS XBS FOR LENDING AN EXTRA HAND!)

The kit is pretty much PLUG AND PLAY! Although I altered it a bit because the connection they want you to use is pretty cheap... You have to build this "male" adapter, pretty much to power up the ballast and act up as "the bulb". That was a pretty shitty mickey mouse job so instead I went to autozone bought some connectors and just crimped them and taped them (electrical) looks way cleaner! and less of a mess... Other than that the whole kit was A++

Now I have the base model because I didn't feal like spending my money on OEM parts that I was going to change out... and everytime I change something that another model Z has I.E. Brakes, LSD, and now H.I.D. I am so GLAD I didn't spend the extra money on another model... I can see how aftermarket parts are just sometimes better than O.E.. (personal opinion)

So anyhow... I had Halogen 150w BULBS that I had already upgraded before so my lights were VERY bright before. But you can still see the difference. from the picture below







XBS has a touring model so we decided to do some SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISION..

ALL I can say, and he also agreed that the kit looke WAY BETTER than stock.. He was actually was quite disapointed in how bland the OEM looked just plain white... The aftermarket light up the road so much nicer and of course was SUPER BRIGHT!! I choose the 8000K kit because I wanted a blueish look.. I have to say that the website pictures that they have are RIGHT ON THE MONEY.. Check out their site at http://www.hidexpress.com/

they also have the 10,000K which is purple

Overall I am very happy with the results, it def stands out A LOT MORE now, the Z should of came STOCK with these... A+ on product and ease of installation... Def a must for BASE MODEL Z guys or just people that don't want that bland white look anymore... here are the pics now so you can see..







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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 03:04 AM
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I too switched out my base halogen to HID's 5000k which are suppose to be whiter than yours.
Side by side comparison with a Touring Z and it's obvious that the OEM hid's had a slight white to amber tint to them.

I know the higher the kelvin rating the less output on brightness but the OEM Hid's don't seem too bright or spectacular.

Yours are really blue but I love it.

You might want to level your lights though. I think they're pointing straight down with the spots right in front.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Could people with OEM HID's just get different bulbs? I kinda want to switch mine out, but not sure if I can get just get the bulbs or not.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Looking at the pictures, I'm not quite sure your aftermarket lights are better than the stock HIDs.. specifically, I'm looking at the pic with the light pattern (last pic).. The stock HIDs seem to cast a more evenly lighted area and the colors look natural..

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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1) its already known that anything higher in kelvin rating over stock (4100k) results in LESS light, SHORTER lifestpan, and are typically more expensive.

2) from the images you showed, it appears there are lighting flaws with your headlamp in comparison to the OEM Z. Look at the light on the floor, the OEM Z looks perfect and yours looks flawed and uneven.

OEM HID for me, thank you much.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by 35oZephyR
I too switched out my base halogen to HID's 5000k which are suppose to be whiter than yours.
Side by side comparison with a Touring Z and it's obvious that the OEM hid's had a slight white to amber tint to them.

I know the higher the kelvin rating the less output on brightness but the OEM Hid's don't seem too bright or spectacular.

Yours are really blue but I love it.

You might want to level your lights though. I think they're pointing straight down with the spots right in front.
Yeah I have to adjust my light... I started the project at 10:00pm at night finished up around 11:30 didn't want to mess with it...
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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1) its already known that anything higher in kelvin rating over stock (4100k) results in LESS light, SHORTER lifestpan, and are typically more expensive.

2) from the images you showed, it appears there are lighting flaws with your headlamp in comparison to the OEM Z. Look at the light on the floor, the OEM Z looks perfect and yours looks flawed and uneven.

OEM HID for me, thank you much.
LOL!! I haven't adjusted my light patern and for your information XBS adjust his because it looked EXACTLY LIKE MINE... the car STOCK shoots the beam at the ground, he adjusted his to shoot WIDE like you see in the picture, he will adjust mine later tonight than we will see a true comparision. And even though mine shoots at the ground it still looks so much nicer with the blue, and seeing side by side his look like halogen (my opinion) he also is switching out his bulbs.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Wicked4u2c,

I am thinking of getting the set. Want to help me with the installation? I am in the west covina/covina area.

Do you have to remove the front bumper or fender well?



Thanks,
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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oh, are you going to disassemble your headlamp and change the projector and inner reflector? i mean, how do you plan on changing your lighting pattern? you do realize that you cant change your lighting pattern, you can only adjust the bulb and how it sits in your housing -- maybe that is where your problem is, all comes down to the bulb and its design. this is why its crucial that everything is in spec, which typically means going with FACTORY HID.

you can adjust your height, thats about all you can adjust. as for the OEM car, it looks like it has HID.. I can tell not by the color, but by the massive amount of light in the front of the car which is quite the opposite of your car, which has less light (and flawed pattern).

if you're going to advertise something, or flaunt it.. make sure the system is good. its been discussed countless times that these high kelvin bulbs are solely for show and serve NO other purpose or benefit. if you enjoy them, cool.. but dont say that they're better because its a fact that they're not.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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hey guys, i helped out wicked with the install (basically did it) and these bulbs do look great, the only adjust i did to my lights is the hight adjust which is common since the stock headlight point a tad too low, i probally will change out the bulbs with the 10000K (purple) but it is just for show these pictures show that the stock HIDs do light up more, any aftermarket HIDs are just for show but this is a nice kit and very easy to install

Thats for the help with ur install wicked
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Hey man, look GREAT. Question though. You say you bought a base model. So I imagine you had to install a xenon conversion kit. One, is your other light in the 1st image a halogen or HID? And 2, if you had a base don't you need to install ballast and such? Anyhow they look sweet, and if I can get a set of 8,000k and just pop my current bulb out and swap this one in, I'm defiantely going to look into it. God knows I have already gone in and monkeied around in there enough replacing my citylights . Let me know if I can just buy their bulb and hook the thing right into my stock HID socket.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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What body kit is that wicked? Looks freaking nice btw. Good work.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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hey its a Greddy kit PM him if u want one he can get u a good price, heres a pic of the balast its not to good because it was taken with my phone sorry
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Originally posted by old_s13
oh, are you going to disassemble your headlamp and change the projector and inner reflector? i mean, how do you plan on changing your lighting pattern? you do realize that you cant change your lighting pattern, you can only adjust the bulb and how it sits in your housing -- maybe that is where your problem is, all comes down to the bulb and its design. this is why its crucial that everything is in spec, which typically means going with FACTORY HID.

you can adjust your height, thats about all you can adjust. as for the OEM car, it looks like it has HID.. I can tell not by the color, but by the massive amount of light in the front of the car which is quite the opposite of your car, which has less light (and flawed pattern).


LOL you sir make me laugh! First off, I adjust the the height and shoots a lot wider and DOES NOT SHOOT on the ground like the install. Second, you haven't even seen my car to judge the light and brigtness it emits. I find it quite funny how you say.. "THE MASSIVE LIGHT" You make it seem like its even that noticeable? the diffence is not to noticeable where you can easily point out and say "HEY THAT GUY's LIGHT IS DIM!" To be honest with you compared to my HALOGEN bulbs which WERE UPGRADED is at least 75% difference in brightness so to say the least it was a MAJOR improvement to what I was currently running. With that in mind I am very pleased with the results. Sure the stock H.I.D. unit gives the best light output but I just don't like the "white" look to it. The dark blue looks makes it look so much nicer (IMO) and Im getting the best of both worlds, nicer color with an improvement over halogen. I will post pics soon with a stock HID car lighting up the street, and my car in the same position doing a side by side comparision. You make it seem like a Halgoen VS H.I.D.

if you're going to advertise something, or flaunt it.. make sure the system is good. its been discussed countless times that these high kelvin bulbs are solely for show and serve NO other purpose or benefit. if you enjoy them, cool.. but dont say that they're better because its a fact that they're not.
The system is good! And if you bothered reading my post above..

"aftermarket parts are just sometimes better than O.E.. (personal opinion)"

It was my personal opinion. I don't like the STOCK HID System, looks very plain if you put my Z next to a stock HID Z you will notice mine because of the bright blue color, sure its more on the "bling" side if you want to call it, but better for me isn't always better for you. You choose to get YOUR model Z because you choose it was better, I choose to get a Base because I feel it was the best bang for your buck and everything added to the Z which made up enthusiast, performance, touring, track etc.. were just BOGUS dealer markups to make extra money. Everything a track model has my car has no different but in the fact that I have aftermarket parts and get many compliments. Im sure some guys that got the track model didnt want to modify their car, which is understandable... Or Touring etc.. Anyhow, im glad you like your HID's thats why you got the model you did for a reason... CONGRATS and I LOVE MINE TOO!
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Wicked4u2c,

I am thinking of getting the set. Want to help me with the installation? I am in the west covina/covina area.

Do you have to remove the front bumper or fender well?



Thanks,
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Sure, let me know when you want to do it... You don't have to remove the bumper or fender well. Just a few clips to move it aside and that's it. Once the car is jacked up with wheels off shouldn't take more than 45minutes to install...
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Hey man, look GREAT. Question though. You say you bought a base model. So I imagine you had to install a xenon conversion kit. One, is your other light in the 1st image a halogen or HID? And 2, if you had a base don't you need to install ballast and such? Anyhow they look sweet, and if I can get a set of 8,000k and just pop my current bulb out and swap this one in, I'm defiantely going to look into it. God knows I have already gone in and monkeied around in there enough replacing my citylights . Let me know if I can just buy their bulb and hook the thing right into my stock HID socket.

~Josh
The light in the first image is a HALOGEN (aftermarket 150w) one of the brightest one out there...

now for your second question its pretty much that... You get a ballast with the kit. Now instead of your plug going into a light bulb your plug that plugs into the bulb to power it up now plugs into the ballast to give it power. The ballast than has other wires to power the HID bulb that will now go into the car. Its pretty much a plug and play... Its a nice upgrade and very inexpensive...
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Originally posted by Wicked4u2c
The system is good! And if you bothered reading my post above..

"aftermarket parts are just sometimes better than O.E.. (personal opinion)"

It was my personal opinion. I don't like the STOCK HID System, looks very plain if you put my Z next to a stock HID Z you will notice mine because of the bright blue color, sure its more on the "bling" side if you want to call it, but better for me isn't always better for you. You choose to get YOUR model Z because you choose it was better, I choose to get a Base because I feel it was the best bang for your buck and everything added to the Z which made up enthusiast, performance, touring, track etc.. were just BOGUS dealer markups to make extra money. Everything a track model has my car has no different but in the fact that I have aftermarket parts and get many compliments. Im sure some guys that got the track model didnt want to modify their car, which is understandable... Or Touring etc.. Anyhow, im glad you like your HID's thats why you got the model you did for a reason... CONGRATS and I LOVE MINE TOO!

You're right, the LSD is a bogus dealer markup.
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Ah okay sorry. I have Xenon's already so I thought I already had a ballast and thus didn't need a new one. Anyhow I ordered the blue bulbs. I was debating between those and the Aqua. I think aqua would be on par with the M3 after warmup where as blue would be like the S2k.. I vote S2k style . Anyhow I'll let you know how my install goes and if I hit any snags. I am hoping I don't need any special wiring/harnesses and can just unplug my stock HID and pop in the new one. If not oh well I'm pretty smart, I'll figure it out Thanks for the reply.

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Ah okay sorry. I have Xenon's already so I thought I already had a ballast and thus didn't need a new one. Anyhow I ordered the blue bulbs. I was debating between those and the Aqua. I think aqua would be on par with the M3 after warmup where as blue would be like the S2k.. I vote S2k style . Anyhow I'll let you know how my install goes and if I hit any snags. I am hoping I don't need any special wiring/harnesses and can just unplug my stock HID and pop in the new one. If not oh well I'm pretty smart, I'll figure it out Thanks for the reply.

~Josh
If you got aftermarket bulbs for your already OEM stock system, you will have some plug and play problems with your new bulbs.... the bases are different as well as some of the wiring plugs. If you got OEM-style bulbs (Philips, et al), then you should be OK.
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You're right, the LSD is a bogus dealer markup.
And you know how unatainable an aftermarket or Nismo LSD is!
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