Just wanted to let you guys know this IS being discussed in the admin/mod section. We are not ignoring you guys. Just trying to figure out the best solution

 

Disagree, the mods should do the modding.

 

After discussion, as well as sponsor and user request, we have decided to once again open up the Vendor Classified so users can post product related inquiries and questions. We were originally trying to prevent bickering over price within threads, but we feel this can be accomplished by moderating the vendor classified section to keep threads from taking a negative turn.

User responses to vendor created threads should revolve around product discussion and inquiries. If you want to haggle price please do this via PM with the vendor directly. Users who haggle price within the threads may be warned.

Sponsors: if you see anything that you feel needs moderation in the Vendor Classified section please contact me directly via PM or email.

Thanks,
Jason

 

Good! this usualy promotes better pricing and more avaiable information

 

https://my350z.com/forum/announcements/217060-vendor-classifieds-open-for-discussion.html

 

don't voice 'em to me...I'm just a sponsor here like everyone else

A vendor feedback section might work, but that would require moderators who pay constant attention. As vendors, we are paying to be here, so I think it is up to us collectively as a group to bring things to the moderator/administrator's attention whenever possible.

I know in the past Jason and I have chatted via email and he's always been quick to reply and address concerns. This was no exception. I PM'd a moderator about this issue Sunday night. I only posted this thread last night because I still had not received a reply. Today I fired off an email to Jason and brought the thread to his attention. Within a couple hours, he had not only replied to me, but also discussed it with the site's owner and address the issue with the vendor in question too - pretty damn efficient

These sites are only as good as we make them - when a moderator does a good job, they deserve thanks and praise. Conversely, when things are not going as smoothly as they should, it also should be brought to their attention.

Hopefully this is the start of some positive changes

 

I wish sites were more selective on who they bring to become a sponsor... Too many threads isn't just one issue, but pricing items too low is another... I don't know about you guys but I've had to cut my prices close to cost just to be competitive. That's how the industry works these days.

Jason

 

Thanks Adam. I'm not posting on the forums as much as I used to be but I'm here and constantly working behind the scene.

As mentioned if any any of the Sponsors have issues, comments or concerns please contact me directly. You all have my email so please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

Maybe a rule of just listing MSRP and PMing for pricing would keep price wars down.

Jason has always been great with timely responses. I love this site

 

Vendors can post prices in their thread or choose to give pricing by PM. What we don't want to see is people using the Vendor Classified to negotiate or bicker over pricing (this can and should be done via PM). These incidents always degrade rather quickly and this is originally what lead to users not being able to respond in the Vendor Classifieds. If this trend continues we'll handle it by issuing warnings where appropriate.

 

This is what happens now..... Customers sends e-mail or PM for price quote. But it goes beyond that. Many companies (Injen, TurboXS ect.) have informed me that some vendors (even some on here) are pricing things way too low. It happens everywhere but I feel it's the worst here. Nothing you can do really. Oh well.

+1 for Jason. Good guy with a great name

Jason

 

Jason - in my follow up email to failsafe, I addressed some of these concerns as well. Hopefully a good compromise can be reached.

 

I only deal with one company, but they have pretty strict rules on prices. You can only list a certain % off, if you list lower they will cut you off. I hear what your saying though, thats under the manufactures to set guidelines.

 

Thanks for the kind words guys!

I'm not sure how we can control the pricing issues.

Make sponsors list MSRP only? Then vendors won't be able to run specials.

Some sponsors prefer to post their best price some sponsors prefer to deal via PM. So I don't think it's fair to say you have to do it one way or the other only.

This is really an issue between the manufacturers and their resellers. However, I'm open to suggestions on how the sponors think this should be handled.

I'm also working on a list of guidelines and rules for the Vendor Classifieds and should have this posted shortly in the Vendor Classifieds.

 

Maybe a sticky in the Vendor Forum telling members not to try and create a bidding war between sponsors. Asking multiple sponsors about the same product is cool but once they start with "so and so said they would do it for $***" then that kinda stuff needs to be taken care of. The vendor can simply say please read the sticky @ the top of the vendor forum. Just an idea

 

Done.

https://my350z.com/forum/vendor-classifieds-archive/a-189.html

If any users or sponsors have any additional suggestion or how we can improve the Vendor Classified please let me know.

 

To be honest, there isn't much YOU guys can do. Only the actual manufacture like HKS, TurboXS, and Volks can do something about it. As CarbonLTD mention, if you sale something too low, they will cut you off. Which does happen time to time. I was just putting it out there to make everyone aware of it. It happens on every forum but as I said before, this forum is the worst about it.

I can tell you now that every Vendor that has posted in this very thread is not guilty of it but I can think of a select few. Anyways, this is a whole different issue. Didn't mean for it to come up like this

Jason

 

What about when a vendor post a clearance on an item he has sitting at his shop for 4 months and another vendor posts the same item for sale the next day for $20 less, like you did to me today??
https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...26&postcount=1
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217024
I agree with Adam that 17 posts in one thread is overkill and should be limited to 2 or 3 posts per week with regulated bumps, not this "bumptizzle" nonsence every day..perfect example below of a thread started in June that was bumped almost daily, sometimes 2 times in one day, and is still at the TOP of the engine forum in the classified adds..My June threads have long since been crushed..

https://my350z.com/forum/questionable-posts/197137-koyo-samco-super-deal.html

I noticed the forums have become a price ***** fest as of late with the addition of several new vendors on the market..IMHO the forum has too many sponsors already and is becoming saturated..The market for the 350z will soon die as a result, mark my words..ala Subaru style..
I thin the other site 3 5 0 z t e c h has some rules employed to prevent just this issue, as it became a problem there after they let everyone and their mother be a vendor..
another thing I think we need to kill is the daily bumping, intentional price cutting and the phrase "will beat any vendors pricing", I admit I am guilty of it at times, but only did it in retort toe another vendor posting it in every single thread
The vendor forums are getting hostile, and bottom line is consumers will price match as much as possible, so if a sale is that important to a particular vendor, he will undercut you..I personally do not price match, I sell for my set pricing and thats it...

 

notice my title for this reason...

 

Vendors should offer more incentives to go to these threads? Drive the traffic to your product with rewards.