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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Loaded_Pistol
nope,
but walking up to someone and internet are completely two different things. I care not to elaborate any further because i believe it’s self-explanatory and those who are easily disturbed /offended on message boards simply need to stop posting and find a new hobby.
This should have been the first response and only response on this thread. This is so trivial.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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hahaha...thats why Loaded Pistol made this big thread about how he is some kind of Russian mafia hotshot...whatever. I dont give a crap about the internet personally...it amuses me when I am at work, if I meet a couple cool kids...better yet.

btw...anyone that saw Christi in person wouldn't have much to criticize.

okay...flame me!!
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Loaded_Pistol
I wasn't talking ish that time either.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by gooters
hahaha...thats why Loaded Pistol made this big thread about how he is some kind of Russian mafia hotshot... flame me!!
Where did u get that from and what are u talking about
although i have to say it sounds kinda funny
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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If we make no distinction with regards to courtesy, discretion and respect, why do we then label some as "trolls" and give them the boot?

Some of you are arguing that its unreasonable to ask that members be courteous, discrete and respectful when it comes to personal issues such as those mentioned here. I have yet to see a compelling argument for this view.

To say "buck up", "just take it", "its just an opinion" and the like is to make no distinction between courteous, discrete and respectful members and trolls. Why, then, do we ostracize the trolls?

To argue against more generalized indiscretions, like racism, but then condone specific personal indiscretions makes no sense to me.

This isn't about those who are sensitive. This is about common courtesy being offered to all members, precisely because there should be no difference with respect to posting here or conversing in the "real" world. Can't we be mature enough to offer something so basic and civil? Why should someone have to be made fun of openly and then "take it", as some have suggested? If a member is uncomfortable with it and specifically says so, can't common courtesy be afforded to that member?

Tell me. What is so unreasonable with asking for the common courtesy, discretion and respect that any man or woman would demand in the "real" world? Is simply not being unkind so much of an inconvenience? I can't believe it is, since it involves not saying anything at all if its not kind. Surely, that doesn't take more effort than typing derrogatory comments.

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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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oh yeah guys...what about the TWINS...i mean, we all criticized them didnt we?
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Wow. I'm getting flamed for trying to get people to refrain from being rude to others. If that makes me some kind of a$$h0le in your eyes, you are not someone I would be interested in knowing, or continuing any sort of dialog with. End of story.

Butterfly20; nice post. Real classy.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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okay, you asked for it....

I could hardly decide between.....
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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and the classic.....

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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Mikestro
and the classic.....
i strongly suggest that no one posts that, since we have members that have children with disabilites and that just offends them.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Okay, I didn't realize, it will be banished from my quick draw of funny jpegs. I had seen it earlier (I thought on this site) so I didn't know it was frowned upon. Feel free to delete if it will offend anyone.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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cant we all just get along!!
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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People on the internet are more rude. Something about typing your thoughts versus actually having to say them face to face makes one more liberal in what they think they can say. The same phenomenon exists in emails and even over the phone. The classic example would be breaking up with somebody over the phone instead of face to face.

Some of it is probably due to the inability to judge emotions while typing and reading. Face to face, you can very quickly see that what you've just said is starting to **** somebody off, and realizing the potential consequences (application of fist to face) you become a little more polite and tactful. Even on the phone, you can discern vocal tone and infer things like irony or sarcasm. The internet approximates these subtleties with emoticons (smilies), but obviously they're not as good as the real thing. People do much worse things when they're relatively anonymous.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by Loaded_Pistol
...the internet has neither limits nor boundaries ...
Just because I am bored, I beg to disagree. And I think a few courts around might disagree as well.

Actually, over the years I have found the newsgroups and email to be more dangerous than people think. After all, your words fly in the wind, but this is all written evidence of your statements.

At work, you quickly learn sometimes is better to call than to email that response...
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by ___DJK___
This should have been the first response and only response on this thread. This is so trivial.
Disagree. The newgroup do NOT belong to the rude and uncivilized. This is NOT the wild wild west of the Internet.

This is a society, and as such, it will generate it's own rules and tolerances.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. IMHO, there is a constant struggle between the rude and the polite, here in the Internet and outside in living society as well. You have seen it, some people get away with been rude and pushy and others frown and their "uncivilized" behaviour.

SO whats new. The newsgroup give all a forum, and the rude feel even more free to be themselves behind an alias and a keyboard.

"Take it or go away" is, as well, a rude answer. I don't have to take it, I don't have to go, and you can't make me. There, direct, not rude.

If the civilized shrug their shoulders and walk away, you leave the space for the rude to invade and conquer. You can't give up and walk away. Banning only removes the extreme cases and leaves the questionable behind.

I apologize for "rambling" on...
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 09:16 AM
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damn some of you people got some insecurity issues for real. this is a public forum and if you post a picture of yourself or someone else you have to expect people to form opinions about it. some of you are so sensitive you get all offended if someone doesnt say something good about it. that is rediculous. oh, something else that is messed up is how the 350z moderator just shuts down a post because he/she doesnt like what is being said. there was nothing said based on race, religion, or sexual preference which is discrimination and against the LAW. people that have a problem with criticism usually have very low self esteem and are insecure about themselves. i could care less if someone says something negative about me because im confident in myself. and if i posted a pic of myself i would expect good and bad opinions. dont post a pic on a public forum if you cant take both good and bad opinions. some of you people are lame as hell. get a life.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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oh yeah, and just to prove it.......there is a pic of me under detailing section on "hows your zaino shine". any of you all that want to post good or bad replies go for it. i dont care either way.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by fresno350
damn some of you people got some insecurity issues for real. this is a public forum and if you post a picture of yourself or someone else you have to expect people to form opinions about it. some of you are so sensitive you get all offended if someone doesnt say something good about it. that is rediculous. oh, something else that is messed up is how the 350z moderator just shuts down a post because he/she doesnt like what is being said. there was nothing said based on race, religion, or sexual preference which is discrimination and against the LAW. people that have a problem with criticism usually have very low self esteem and are insecure about themselves. i could care less if someone says something negative about me because im confident in myself. and if i posted a pic of myself i would expect good and bad opinions. dont post a pic on a public forum if you cant take both good and bad opinions. some of you people are lame as hell. get a life.
Saying anything about someone's race, religion or sexual preference is NOT against the law. People's First Amendment rights prevail in those circumstances. Its only against the law to discriminate with employment, lending money (loans), etc. Its NOT against the law to simply make a racist or sexist comment publicly.

People have the freedom to say what they like. However, this is a privately owned forum and, therefore, whatever the owner says goes and he is within his rights to ban whoever he wishes for whatever reason he likes.

This isn't about rights and insecurity. This is about common decency and people asking for it from other members. Again, I have to ask why its unreasonable to ask for it.

Making statements that can easily be construed as rude and unproductive certainly doesn't help anything. I still don't see what the big deal is about respecting other people. Joking around is one thing, but blatantly making fun of someone at the other's expense is another. Asking that it cease isn't a big deal. Its not a demand.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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"2.) DISCRIMINATION
The forum has people from many walks of life. People's religion, race, political beliefs, age etc., vary immensely. Please be mature and caring towards others. Offenders will receive one warning only and failure to comply after that will result in being banned. If you have a personal problem with someone on the forum resolve it by private messaging. - NOT on this board or posting in the forum. MY350Z.COM will not tolerate abuse of another member."

Read the rules before you start saying what's okay and what's not. I didn't close this "foot thread" because I didn't like what was being said. It was closed because it was no longer a good natured post.
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