Should warnings transfer to new usernames?
11-08-2003, 04:34 PM
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Yes, absolutely. It's the person behind the names who committed the offense.
If they are not transferred, logic would presume that if you are banned, you are allowed back, as long as it's under a different name.
What if somebody gets 2 strikes?
Sorry if I appear a little rigid on this latest issue, but it's what I believe.
If they are not transferred, logic would presume that if you are banned, you are allowed back, as long as it's under a different name.
What if somebody gets 2 strikes?
Sorry if I appear a little rigid on this latest issue, but it's what I believe.
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11-08-2003, 05:02 PM
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Yes, we can conjecture about hypothetical situations all we want. Let's say Chris buys a Z and posts on this board. However, he is a jerk and gets himself 2 strikes. One day, he gets killed crossing the street. His brother Bob ends up getting his Z and his computer and decides to start posting here. He has the same IP address, but he's really a nice guy. Should the two strikes transfer over?
I think the baseline rule should be that the strikes transfer. If some incredibly rare situation arises, like the ones that you or I described, the moderators will obviously give some serious consideration to it and will come to an agreement that is agreeable to all parties.
The opposite, that strikes do not transfer, should not hold, as the situations we described will come about so rarely. People trying to avoid deserved strikes will be the vast majority.
It is not a slippery slope. This website has been in existence for about 1 and a half years. The strike system is somewhat new, but this is the first time we've had to deal with it. Most people can accept that they've done something wrong and have the ability to move on.
In this case, if you're not Richard, then who exactly are you? You "represent" him right? If you really consider himself his spokesman, that's even more reason that a strike should transfer.
I think the baseline rule should be that the strikes transfer. If some incredibly rare situation arises, like the ones that you or I described, the moderators will obviously give some serious consideration to it and will come to an agreement that is agreeable to all parties.
The opposite, that strikes do not transfer, should not hold, as the situations we described will come about so rarely. People trying to avoid deserved strikes will be the vast majority.
It is not a slippery slope. This website has been in existence for about 1 and a half years. The strike system is somewhat new, but this is the first time we've had to deal with it. Most people can accept that they've done something wrong and have the ability to move on.
In this case, if you're not Richard, then who exactly are you? You "represent" him right? If you really consider himself his spokesman, that's even more reason that a strike should transfer.
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11-08-2003, 06:05 PM
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Absolutely.
I was a Moderator/Admin at www.e46fanatics.com for like 3 years and went through way more crap than this site has usually. Ban people and warn them without haste.
Why should "anyone" have 2 names also.
I was a Moderator/Admin at www.e46fanatics.com for like 3 years and went through way more crap than this site has usually. Ban people and warn them without haste.
Why should "anyone" have 2 names also.
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11-08-2003, 06:13 PM
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yes, but does that mean you would have to ban The Individual again? Or is a year enough time?
yes, but does that mean you would have to ban The Individual again? Or is a year enough time?
11-08-2003, 06:23 PM
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I used to have an alter ego on this board. I used it sometimes to post opinions that might not be popular, but needed to be said for the sanity of the discussions. It was never strike material though. Now, I've decided that if people don't like what I've got to say, then too bad for them.
So, yes strikes should transfer.
So, yes strikes should transfer.
11-08-2003, 07:53 PM
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"No, that's not right. All you can tell from comparing IP addresses is that the posts came from the same computer. How do you know it is the same person?"
Hmmmm, let's see, what was it I wanted to say.....OH YEAH, What a loser!
Oh yes, I do think strikes and anything else should transfer over to alter egos.
Hmmmm, let's see, what was it I wanted to say.....OH YEAH, What a loser!
Oh yes, I do think strikes and anything else should transfer over to alter egos.
11-08-2003, 08:10 PM
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What if someone is on the witness protection program and changes his name on the board so he won't be discovered by the mob that he testified against? If you transfer his strikes to the new name then that will be a clue to those searching for him and you may be putting him in jeopardy!!
Speaking of strikes........why does everyone count them as being bad, as if they were up to bat in a baseball game? If you get a strike........no need to change your name.........just think of yourself as a bowler.........then the strike is good!
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The above comments were soley an attempt by the individual to interject levity..........they are in no way sactioned by this Website, it's administrator, moderators or members.........this has been a paid anouncement
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Now to answer Victor's question..........Yes, of course they should transfer to the new name. The only thing that has changed is the name, not the individual's personality or the potential for the type of comment that got the strike in the first place.
Speaking of strikes........why does everyone count them as being bad, as if they were up to bat in a baseball game? If you get a strike........no need to change your name.........just think of yourself as a bowler.........then the strike is good!
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The above comments were soley an attempt by the individual to interject levity..........they are in no way sactioned by this Website, it's administrator, moderators or members.........this has been a paid anouncement
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Now to answer Victor's question..........Yes, of course they should transfer to the new name. The only thing that has changed is the name, not the individual's personality or the potential for the type of comment that got the strike in the first place.
11-09-2003, 06:58 AM
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So the husband is a jerk and does something to get himself a strike, or even banned. The wife is sweet. Why should she wear hubby's badge of (dis)honor, just because the moderators caught that their posts come from the same computer IP address.
What has been put up for a vote is if one name (with a strike) has been cancelled and the same person comes on with a different name. That is very different.
11-09-2003, 10:54 AM
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Strikes should most definitely be passed along with the person who got them--no matter the user name. 99.99% of the time, they're behavior's not going to change, so all a clean slate will allow them is more time to start trouble.
11-10-2003, 06:38 AM
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Yeah, they should transfer, but the art of discerning whether or not someone is using a community access computer (e.g., library, school, etc.) might be quite problematic. 
11-10-2003, 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by yobri
Yeah, they should transfer, but the art of discerning whether or not someone is using a community access computer (e.g., library, school, etc.) might be quite problematic.
Yeah, they should transfer, but the art of discerning whether or not someone is using a community access computer (e.g., library, school, etc.) might be quite problematic.
