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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Well I really wasn't looking for a fight but I sure didn't find anything intellectual in that heap of words either. Run on sentences and lack of punctuation make your post difficult to read, thats all. Go ahead and fire back if you must but I will not comment on this again.


Hey SpeedRacer you should join the locals at g350z.com. Sorry again for your problems with the SC. I was looking forward to checking it out at a local meet.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
Well I really wasn't looking for a fight but I sure didn't find anything intellectual in that heap of words either. Run on sentences and lack of punctuation make your post difficult to read, thats all. Go ahead and fire back if you must but I will not comment on this again.


Hey SpeedRacer you should join the locals at g350z.com. Sorry again for your problems with the SC. I was looking forward to checking it out at a local meet.
Thanks. I'll check out the site. Looking forward to some meets come springtime. There is one downside to FI that I won't miss....this car is really traction limited at those power levels. You have to drive it very carefully. At least with NA, you can bury the pedal and let her rip with a good degree of trust that the car won't do anything too unpredictable.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Speedracer
Thanks. I'll check out the site. Looking forward to some meets come springtime. There is one downside to FI that I won't miss....this car is really traction limited at those power levels. You have to drive it very carefully. At least with NA, you can bury the pedal and let her rip with a good degree of trust that the car won't do anything too unpredictable.
I think that is one thing that really hit me the first time I drove my 350Z on the track, that is was so well balanced. The power on the track is perfectly balanced to the handling and braking. No, it does not have unlimited power but the power coming out of a turn is just below the level of it getting completely out of control.

My bet is most drivers would not significantly improve their lap times with more hp. They might burn more rubber but not really get around the track much quicker.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by zland

My bet is most drivers would not significantly improve their lap times with more hp. They might burn more rubber but not really get around the track much quicker.
Hoosiers and coilovers will do wonders.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by zland
I think that is one thing that really hit me the first time I drove my 350Z on the track, that is was so well balanced. The power on the track is perfectly balanced to the handling and braking. No, it does not have unlimited power but the power coming out of a turn is just below the level of it getting completely out of control.

My bet is most drivers would not significantly improve their lap times with more hp. They might burn more rubber but not really get around the track much quicker.
If your goal is a top end track car, FI is definitely not the way to go. A lot of extra weight, and a lot of traction problems. FI is about one thing and one thing alone.....blistering straight line acceleration that will give you an ear-to-ear grin. I'll miss that part, but fortunately, the car, especially the roadster, is satisfying in so many other ways too.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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Centrifugal SC setup e.g. Vortech helps make good linear power and compromises straighline acceleration of a TT setup for better track setup.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
Well I really wasn't looking for a fight but I sure didn't find anything intellectual in that heap of words either. Run on sentences and lack of punctuation make your post difficult to read, thats all. Go ahead and fire back if you must but I will not comment on this again.
Yeah, and your posts contain a grand total of...nothing. And apparently your reading comprehension is not any better than your attention span. So let me repeat. If you aren't interested in my posts, then ignore them. Like I will do for your posts from now on. Smarta$$.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by luanda
Centrifugal SC setup e.g. Vortech helps make good linear power and compromises straighline acceleration of a TT setup for better track setup.
I think some just like to keep the heat, stress and mechanical complexity down. The weight distribution has to be better without all that extra hardware on the front, too.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by More Power
Yeah, and your posts contain a grand total of...nothing. And apparently your reading comprehension is not any better than your attention span. So let me repeat. If you aren't interested in my posts, then ignore them. Like I will do for your posts from now on. Smarta$$.
Geebus, ever think the guy didn't mean anything negative about his comment other than it being a joke

Take a step back dude, no need to insult others esp. since he didn't post anything horrible.

Also to Speedracer, I see your other thread on this is clearly getting more attention, which I guess would be bad if they don't see this one.

Oh and are those the stock plugs? If they are could they be the problem?

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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Geebus, ever think the guy didn't mean anything negative about his comment other than it being a joke

Take a step back dude, no need to insult others esp. since he didn't post anything horrible.

Also to Speedracer, I see your other thread on this is clearly getting more attention, which I guess would be bad if they don't see this one.

Oh and are those the stock plugs? If they are could they be the problem?
Those were not the stock plugs. They were Denso Iridiums heat range 7 (2 steps colder). Believe me, I have exhausted all possibilities of some kind or user "error". My problem was either a programming glitch or a leaking injector assay. Had this been my only problem, I would have thought about working through it, but I also had a defective supercharger unit earlier. Just too much crap to deal with.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Peking
Geebus, ever think the guy didn't mean anything negative about his comment other than it being a joke

Take a step back dude, no need to insult others esp. since he didn't post anything horrible.

It was not a joke. Reread. Sometimes somone just might be at work and in a hurry and tired and not have time to polish a post with all the right punctuation, etc. And they really don't need some smarta$$ bean counter type comment about it that is devoid of content, itself. And it got worse from there on. Translated, there is a way to approach people that you don't know and insulting their posts is not it. I don't treat other people like that and I don't appreciate it in return. But, we've both said what we think so no need to discuss further. Let's move on.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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sorry to hear that speedracer....i got mine installed a little over a week ago and so far so good....but it sucks that you got a lemon out of the bunch....best of luck to you in the future
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by More Power
If you aren't interested, then don't bother reading it. If that's all you saw in my post, then you have the attention span and the intellect of a gold fish.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by ZRspeed
sorry to hear that speedracer....i got mine installed a little over a week ago and so far so good....but it sucks that you got a lemon out of the bunch....best of luck to you in the future
As I said, one major problem I could have handled, but two major problems requiring me to basically pull the entire set-up out of the car twice to check everything out is too much.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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So where does it stand now ? Is HKS doing anything for you or is the kit just sitting in your garage ?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by zland
I think that is one thing that really hit me the first time I drove my 350Z on the track, that is was so well balanced. The power on the track is perfectly balanced to the handling and braking. No, it does not have unlimited power but the power coming out of a turn is just below the level of it getting completely out of control.

My bet is most drivers would not significantly improve their lap times with more hp. They might burn more rubber but not really get around the track much quicker.
I agree, if you want to go faster on the track, FI is not the way to go (at first). The first step is to go to a racing school, because 97% of Z owners don't know how to drive to the limits of the stock car. Then, beefing up the suspension/tires/brakes and weight reduction is the way to go.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by 35ounces
So where does it stand now ? Is HKS doing anything for you or is the kit just sitting in your garage ?
Right now the kit is sitting on my garage floor. I kept the upgraded fuel pump. A couple of wires/hoses had to be cut to be removed. I've just recently approached HKS about exactly what to do. Jury is still out.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Ah crap, I am crossing HKS off my list. mediocre power gain, reliability problem, unresolved black plugs, peaky torque, very premium price, and unknown record. Sheesh, this thing sounds worse than the original Procharger.

Back to square 2 - Stillen vs Vortech. (ugly vs leaky)
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Fair-Lady
Ah crap, I am crossing HKS off my list. mediocre power gain, reliability problem, unresolved black plugs, peaky torque, very premium price, and unknown record. Sheesh, this thing sounds worse than the original Procharger.

Back to square 2 - Stillen vs Vortech. (ugly vs leaky)
So you would take the Stillen kit over any Turbo kit (Greddy, etc.)?


Originally posted by Speedracer
Those were not the stock plugs. They were Denso Iridiums heat range 7 (2 steps colder). Believe me, I have exhausted all possibilities of some kind or user "error". My problem was either a programming glitch or a leaking injector assay. Had this been my only problem, I would have thought about working through it, but I also had a defective supercharger unit earlier. Just too much crap to deal with.
Gotcha and that sucks. Yeah that is alot of crap to get through in order to find out exactly why.


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It was not a joke. Reread. Sometimes somone just might be at work and in a hurry and tired and not have time to polish a post with all the right punctuation, etc. And they really don't need some smarta$$ bean counter type comment about it that is devoid of content, itself. And it got worse from there on. Translated, there is a way to approach people that you don't know and insulting their posts is not it. I don't treat other people like that and I don't appreciate it in return. But, we've both said what we think so no need to discuss further. Let's move on.
Alrightly then.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Fair-Lady
Ah crap, I am crossing HKS off my list. mediocre power gain, reliability problem, unresolved black plugs, peaky torque, very premium price, and unknown record. Sheesh, this thing sounds worse than the original Procharger.

Back to square 2 - Stillen vs Vortech. (ugly vs leaky)

You SHOULDN'T cross HKS off your list. And coming from me, you should take these words seriously. There is no doubt that I have had issues with my kit, but that doesn't mean every kit is going to have problems. Virtually every product ever made will some problems. HKS is still a top notch company, with a long and PROVEN track record in this business. If something is wrong, they have the resources and ability to fix it quickly. And while I have been very vocal about my particular experience, I still think the HKS SC application is an ideal one for the 350Z.

And.....as I have said numerous times, the company has been extremely helpful in this whole matter. My decision to pull the kit was not because of lack of customer support or wiilingness to fix the problem on the part of HKS. For me, in my particular circumstance, it was all just getting to be a bit too frustrating. A number of these kits have been installed with no problems whatsoever. Really....if you have any real questions, ask HKS themselves. Now....I really think this thread needs to die.
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