Hey Guys
What about this Idea (I'll doing now with gq)
APS TT hardware + Greddy e-Manage
cause my APS running super rich condition but I can't remap the APS unichip
So I'll get Greddy e-manage for tune my APS TT KIT

This is what I saw in this forum

Greddy TT make big HP than APS but also BIG risk
1> Most 500 HP guys are Equiped with Greddy and very fineness tune work.
2> Greddy e-manage has more friendly than APS Unichip (some point)

APS make less HP than Greddy but very liable
1> I think APS TT kit equiped with Unichip but unichip not easy to tune (like me)
2> Non of APS TT Kit Blown there Engine yet

 

I would not recommend it. I would consider sending your car to get it tuned before changing the piggyback system.

APS just hasn't had a chance to prove it yet, give it time.

Have you checked for the nearest Unichip dealer and then got a price quote for shipping your car to get it tuned?

 

Nearest ?????
L.A
Shipping: around $2,800.00 each way
Why you don't like this setip???
e-manage is one of Bolton also right??
cause I don' have choice I'm runnging 7.6:1 A/F Ratio
my topend is buging now sims like Spark Plug
And also last Racing I was beaten by 90 Toyota Pickup Truck (22r motor running 11.8s in 1/4)

 

I think your problem is the set-up you have....APS TT w/ Technosquare ECU reflash; emphasis on ECU reflash. Don't get me wrong TechnoSquare reflashes are great but only when they have specifically made a remap using an APS TT which I don't think they have yet. Try getting a stock ECU and see what happens.

 

Unichip is a great piggyback - You compund the chance for problems by running 2 piggybacks i.e. adding Emanage.

Do it right....my 2 cents.

 

No, the problem here is that he can't unlock and tune the Unichip because there are no APS dealers or even a dyno on the island.

I would say try going the e-Manage route... get the eManage and all the required goodies (support tool, timing harness, not sure what else) as well as a wide band 02 sensor and start tuning. You may want to wait and see if you can get a copy of someone else's base maps to you don't have to start from scratch.

Clearly shipping your car off to LA for tuning is not a viable long term solution at $6000 a trip. What happens if you add another mod... another 6 grand to have it retuned? No way. You need to be able to do this yourself.

 

Agreed. Although I figured it wouldn't be as expensive as what he said. So yeah, get the E-Manage, tune it through that.

 

How do you tune with the emanage. What parameters does it use in order to control timing and air fuel ratio. I will need an additional wideband air fuel gauge too.

Is there a way of getting the CD cheap... it is at 140 now.

 

You need to get the GReddy E-Manage timing harness to control timing, and if you do use GReddy to control timing, you can't leave your key in the "on" position when the engine is not running. There was something else about the timing harness, let me try to find it.

An alternative is sending your ECU to Technosquare to get the L-Spec reflash and have the timing controlled through that. I'm not sure if AAM has the ability to do that right now.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=109917

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....53#post1282053

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=106807

 

Wow, sounds like a tuning nightmare.

 

Yes it does. This is why people need to consider very carefully before buying a certain kit. Make sure you can get it installed locally, tuned, etc. Otherwise, it may not be worth having a certain kit.

 

The problem here is the car and owner resides in a very remote location and there is no experienced tuner close by, imho either leave the TT system as delivered or maybe consider flying in an experienced tuner, this may still prove to be a less expensive option and a lot less grief for you.

Thorough and safe engine tuning for FI requires a very experienced technician, one wrong key stroke can be the difference between higher power and an engine failure. When you add bigger cams, lower comp, Noz, etc, etc into the deal it's not difficult to understand why the engine is operating at less than the optimum power level.

Peter

 

Thnsk'q Guys and Peter
Now i have to spend around $2,000.00 for all the e-manage parts
and APS Unichip will totaly removed out of my car to replace e-manage ????
Peter If you send one of your tunner to Saipan How much charge ? ( I'll pay Air ticket + Hotel )

If replace with e-manage system I'll get the base MAP from gq_646

 

Do you have access to a true load based dyno (not inertia based) in Saipan?

Peter

 

Yeah. Peter, you yourself know that we can't just leave it at stock boost.

I was going to mention he may want to fly someone in to tune it (like Charles).

nitrous350, that is why I said people should consider everything before buying, now if you can't fly someone in to tune it, then you have to pay for a new piggyback.

 

Yeah I understand that though being in a remote location with little or no tech support is difficult, i'd just leave the TT system stock and enjoy the car without having any grief, imho.


I think you're missing the point here, it's takes years of knowledge, equipment, and pratical experience to tune FI engines safley, just because you have the tuning software, well that's the easy part imho.

Peter

 

Why don't you contact someone like kyle at SGP racing. They should have an APS map for lower compression, cams, higher boost,etc in the next month. Send your Unichip to them....get the new map downloaded and get them to ship it back to you. This will be much cheaper....the system will be running with the software it was meant to run on....and you will have the right map for your car. Worth a shot.

 

Thank's for youe advice
But you think they(SGP) can give me a MAP unichip with out dyno sheet ?
If I get dyno (A/F ratio) on my setup even my supplyer Brainstorm performance can Remap my unichip .....
Most of my problem is we Don't have Dyno machine
or If SGP racing remap the my unichip base on what i get on my Motor ,,,,,why not I'll do ???

 

If they are doing a map for a customers car with almost identical mods to yours then it will be way closer to what you need for your motor. It would be a much better choice than to run the stock map for a motor that has lower compression, cams, etc. The stock map that came with your kit would not be even close to what you need to make the car run right.....your A/F ratio is proof of that. If you don't get the rich fuel problem fixed ASAP you will be needing a new motor. Overfueling a motor kills rings and bearings almost as fast as detonation.

 

Nitrous knows how to tune cars...dont let his english writing skills fool you. I spoke to him on the phone, and he SPEAKS very good english. He is in a bind becuase like Peter said, there is no dyno or APS dealer on his Island. He does all of his testing and tuning via road test, and wants a flexible system he can tune himself.

When you run the eManage with the e-01 and reference pressure instead of MAF, it does almost everything the Unichip unit does. The unchip is not a standalone-like unit, like some people are making it out to be.

I remember asking Peter a long time ago for a "tuner" version of the APS kit..how cool would that be?

Its not too late Peter!!