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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Hey Blympie and all. There's a real looooong thread on the APS single turbo over on 350Zmotoring.com in the FI forum. Go to "forums", then "modifications/technical", then "FI". It is very informative and supplements what you're hearing over here. Peter has a LOT of posts on this thread over there and it will answer many of your questions. Like it did mine. Good luck. Maybe by the end of the summer we can start an APS 350Z club. Just a thought. Good luck!
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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they don't show anything on the website.. they just show where the turbo is located and their exhaust system.

How about some pictures of the manifolds, how they are joined together, how all the charge pipes are routed , how the oil drains from the turbo (because from the pictures the turbo looks like it sits a little low), etc etc
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Pilot_Z
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Let the Q's Begin.....

....with mine....

> Target MSRP is about $5500 to $6000 US?
> Shipping starts in May?
> Any options for cats? (I don't need to pass CARB, but I need to pass smog...)

(great website by the way, answeres most Q's)

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No problem and I can confirm that the APS intercooled single turbo system will have an MSRP between $5500 to $6000. The APS single system will be a very complete system, in many ways it's the same as the APS TT system only with one large turbocharger instead of two smaller turbochargers.

The APS single turbo system will incorporate a Garrett dual ball bearing water cooled GT series turbocharger. This large GT series turbo provides awesome power and vastly improved turbo response in the low to mid rpm range over conventional sleeve bearing turbochargers.

The APS single system will also include a massive air to air intercooler, high volume air cooled oil pan, a comprhensive fuel system with full fuel return and pressure referenced fuel regulator, engine management to control, ignition timing retard, air fuel ratio and map boost pressure, blow off valve, 3.5'' stainless steel down pipe, in fact all of the same high quality engineering and features of the APS TT system.

If all goes to plan shipping will commence late May/early June 05 and there will be an optional high flow APS cat converter for the guys who need to run the federal IM-240 hot engine emission verification test.

I hope this answers all of your questions and I will post more info over the coming weeks.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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That's all good news, Peter. I look forward to seeing the finished product.

I do have one question about the APS cat and the IM-240. Here in Arizona we have the IM-240 requirement (for vehicles older than 5 yrs). Is APS going to verify/certify that installing the APS cat will make the vehicle pass the IM-240?

On a related note, has the TT kit passed CARB?

Thanks for the info.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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damn 3.5 downpipe, thats pretty big. Must be a big turbo.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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alrite boys and girls....time to save up the dols. I am looking at the low end of 9K for the turbo kit and the installation, and some sexy gauges. No more beers from now till the end of june. damn... all because of turbo.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by BrianLG35C
Ok, what whp/tq could I expect "out of the box" running 93 octane?
I'd say around 370 to 380 WHP on a dyno jet depending on the performance of your current exhaust system.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Thanks Peter! I know I asked this of you in another forum but can you compare the torque curve between the ST & TT kits? Trying to find out how much sooner the TT torque kicks in before the ST.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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I have not been on the forum for awhile and just started looking at this post and was interested in it. I just wanted to know if you can still keep you dual exhaust with this turbo kit or does it have to be a y-pipe back one. If so, do you think it would be possible to make a dual exhaust fit this turbo setup. THanks
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Sorry if this question has been answered before but is APS going to produce their own strut bar with the development of the Tall Boy Plenum? If so, what is your ETA for this to be released & is APS ever going to do a full APS package deal with all their goodies including exhaust, cats, plenum, strut, & TT or Single Turbo kits?

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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by arizzee
That's all good news, Peter. I look forward to seeing the finished product.

I do have one question about the APS cat and the IM-240. Here in Arizona we have the IM-240 requirement (for vehicles older than 5 yrs). Is APS going to verify/certify that installing the APS cat will make the vehicle pass the IM-240?
There's no way that a company can 100% certify that a any FI engine will pass a IM-240 hot engine emission verification test as this depends on the actual condition of the engine when 5 years old.

If the engine being tested to the IM-240 hot engine emission test has worn rings or a leaking inlet/exhaust valve I can just about guarantee that a 5 year old engine in this condition won't pass the IM-240 test.

That said if the FI engine is in good shape and the engine is in a healthy state of engine tune (new spark plugs, clean fuel injectors, efficient cat converter, etc,etc,) then i'm 99.99% sure that the APS single turbo system will PASS the IM-240 hot engine emission verification test with flying colors.

Originally posted by arizzee
On a related note, has the TT kit passed CARB?
Thanks for the info.
APS have not yet tested the APS Twin Turbo system to the CARB standard though we hope to do so by mid year, we have conducted preliminary engine emission testing in Aust (to the CARB emission standard) and all is looking positive to date.

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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by turbo-maxima
damn 3.5 downpipe, thats pretty big. Must be a big turbo.
Your right, the 3.5'' down pipe is huge for the VQ 3.5 litre engine. The GT 35 water cooled dual ball bearing turbo is a monster turbo and supplies very high mass air flow at relatively low boost pressure.

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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by APS
Your right, the 3.5'' down pipe is huge for the VQ 3.5 litre engine. The GT 35 water cooled dual ball bearing turbo is a monster turbo and supplies very high mass air flow at relatively low boost pressure.

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so how about some pictures of the manifolds, how they are joined together and how all the charge pipes are routed.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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I was still wondering if you could use a dual exhaust with this setup or be able to modify it to work with the Single Turbo Kit. Thanks
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by johanna1
I was still wondering if you could use a dual exhaust with this setup or be able to modify it to work with the Single Turbo Kit. Thanks
aps offers a special pipe that will allow you to mate up the down pipe with a true dual exhaust. there are pictures, or maybe just one picture of the piece on the website.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by BrianLG35C
Thanks Peter! I know I asked this of you in another forum but can you compare the torque curve between the ST & TT kits? Trying to find out how much sooner the TT torque kicks in before the ST.
I'll post some power and torque graphs for you in a few weeks time, I'm testing a new design turbine housing on the APS intercooled single turbo system at the moment which may well improve the low to mid range engine power, I need a little more time to complete the testing.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by johanna1
I have not been on the forum for awhile and just started looking at this post and was interested in it. I just wanted to know if you can still keep you dual exhaust with this turbo kit or does it have to be a y-pipe back one. If so, do you think it would be possible to make a dual exhaust fit this turbo setup. THanks
You should be able to retain your dual exhaust though this depends on the flange connection points, have a look at this pic which shows the stock 3.5'' APS down pipe (supplied in the APS single turbo system) this should clarify the issue for you http://www.**************/350z/single/it_system.htm

Look at the 7th pic down, this shows a connection back to the APS true dual exhaust system, hope this makes it clearer for you.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by APS
excuse me but you haven't answered my questions. How is the turbo mounted? how are the two manifolds routed? Where are they joined? how are the charge pipes routed??????????

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by GTNPU Z
Sorry if this question has been answered before but is APS going to produce their own strut bar with the development of the Tall Boy Plenum?
Yes and this product will be released mid year if all goes to plan.


Originally posted by GTNPU Z
is APS ever going to do a full APS package deal with all their goodies including exhaust, cats, plenum, strut, & TT or Single Turbo kits? [/B]
I doubt the APS product will ever packaged this way, rather the parts (Plenum and exhaust) will be available as seperate components, hope this answers your question.

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