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Tired of your Stillen Supercharger?

Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Im sorry to hear that. I hope it was something minor.

when the kit was strong.....how was it like racing Vettes from a stop/roll?
Where did you pull most?
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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I know you are not saying you beat a c6 right?

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I think I may be the first.Somethin's wrong.Blow by or somethin.It's cool for now,i can still beat those corvettes.I raced a a vette a few times after I dyno'd 253hp & 260tq on sat.WTF huh
It still feels strong,I don't feel any drop of power like that on the graph.
Whatever, as long as is lasts 'till june/july.I should have all my parts by then.
So I think I'm the lucky first blown Stillen,maybe.
I'll probably keep the kit,I'm just keepin my options open.I could sell the SC ,build the engine,and up the n2o 'till I can afford a TT.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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I really don't feel any power loss.
I still pull hard from a stop.Thats where all the power has always been.
At Carlsbad raceway when it was open,I raced a vette a few times.I'd pull hard off the line,then about half way down the track he caught up and finished a few tenths faster.If I had n2o I would have smoked him
On sat. I messed around with a 1999-2003 vette.It looked fairly new but it wasn't the new vette

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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Tom, I believe Bartzen (brian salazar, on motoring, I think) has a cs hood for sale for 400. FYI, I paid 4k for my stage 3 with used cf scoop.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH 2003z!
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003z
Tom, I believe Bartzen (brian salazar, on motoring, I think) has a cs hood for sale for 400. FYI, I paid 4k for my stage 3 with used cf scoop.
How was thee fitment of your carbon fiber scoop???? does it sit well???

On another note how can anyone prove what stage you will have.....Personally if something happened id put the stage two pulley on...... but thats just me...im evil.....

Next day air is a great thing.....
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Redline I was thinking the same thing. The only difference is a belt....
Do you HAVE to order it from Stillen is my next question?
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EnthuZiast
Redline I was thinking the same thing. The only difference is a belt....
Do you HAVE to order it from Stillen is my next question?
I am going to purchase in stages so STAGE 1 with the warrenty then Stage 2 and finally Stage 3 from a diffrent company.... one that is in the middle of noware.....LOL... I seriouslly doubt anything will happen though....

This way I can get things like oil pan and what not and still stay in the 5K range.... when i feel all my MISC. parts.... gauges and all are sufficent I will buy stage 2.....

Stock market bad lately dont want to touch that money till later
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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haha. Im thinking of going Stage II right off the bat either USED or my buddy at Vivid Racing is gonna try and hook it up at an UNBELIEVABLE price...but you know how that goes.


Dude I can't wait!
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Originally Posted by EnthuZiast
haha. Im thinking of going Stage II right off the bat either USED or my buddy at Vivid Racing is gonna try and hook it up at an UNBELIEVABLE price...but you know how that goes.

Dude I can't wait!
The only reason im gonna wait is because HAWAII has better weather and will be more friendly of an enviroment till I upgrade to stage II.... i will be back in the states in 3 years though and by then I will need there cooler or something better.....Well see what products they produce in the next few years....
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Ive been trying to locate the kit (stage 1) with a carbon scoop for a while now shipped to HAWAII but some of the people ive been contacting have not been very eager to help.....
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Sounds like a plan. How do you feel about Vortec?
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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I havent really looked into it very much...since im doing the install myself I like the idea of not being able to tune it...... Any fine tuning I do will be with my ECU....And only if my A/F is way off and Techno Square recommend I take some extra timing off the top..... If I got the vortec I would have to tune down the power output..... If I find instructions indicating how much wiring is involved I may reconsider and start to lean twoards the kit......I know if I get that kit the inital cost will be about 5500...and for that I would rather get a single turbo kit and modify my exhaust....

this is a very hard choice for me in particular because of my N/A mods I really should be getting a turbo kit.....My launches need no more power than I already have.... and turbo lag would probably help my 60FT... I think atleast...

in all reality the Vortec is easier.....because I would either also have to modify my hood or exhaust with my other choices.....and im very picky about my Z's looks...

Too bad Z/G owners here dont have F/I I wish I could look at some... would help my choice....

Just my opinion
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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I can't say I recommend Stillen. The engineering of the Stillen kit is, yes, safe, but so is the hospital soup -- yet it has no spice, no taste. Here's what:
* Blower is too small for 3.5L engine (M62 tops out at 4.0L), so you'll never be able to run much boost on it.
* CAI makes car sound like siren. Keep stock airbox.
* Loss of tower strut bar.
* 67lbs of added weight in front changes car's balance (can be offset, tho).
* Intercooler core in 1/4-1/2" thick -- too thin to make too much diff. The one I'm talking about is underneath the blower, not the one up front.
* If electric coolant pump fails (2amp fuse may make sure it does every so-so), you won't know.

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bascelik
I can't say I recommend Stillen. The engineering of the Stillen kit is, yes, safe, but so is the hospital soup -- yet it has no spice, no taste. Here's what:
* Blower is too small for 3.5L engine (M62 tops out at 4.0L), so you'll never be able to run much boost on it.
* CAI makes car sound like siren. Keep stock airbox.
* Loss of tower strut bar.
* 67lbs of added weight in front changes car's balance (can be offset, tho).
* Intercooler core in 1/4-1/2" thick -- too thin to make too much diff. The one I'm talking about is underneath the blower, not the one up front.
* If electric coolant pump fails (2amp fuse may make sure it does every so-so), you won't know.

Cheers.
*power is good enough if you want daily reliability and don't have to have bragging rights of being the most powerful Z out there.
*I've just put a pop charger on, and I can't agree with you there. Not a whole lot of difference.
*Stillen has a STB available
*With the mods I have, tokicos, eibachs, sways, even with the extra weight, the car is very neutral and will 4 wheel drift with ease.
* Agree about the electric pump, but Stillen has replaced the unreliable Davies-Craig pump with a new manufacturer. I am on my 3rd DC pump, but DC has replaced them under warranty for me. I'm contemplating wiring an indicator light to monitor it. Next failure will be the new stillen pump for me.

Redline, as for the hood scoop, mine was used and had silicone on the edges of it that I couldn't remove, so I wasn't really happy with it. If you like the cf, I recommend getting the full hood, although its a few $$$$. I've seen people selling them used on here though.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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I know this system will pump 10-12 pounds,that should be fun for a while(that is with a built motor).Of course I'll crave for more power down the road,but that kinda pressure should push over 400hp&tq to the wheels.
the difference with the stage 3&2 is a pulley not a belt.Stage 4 will require a new pulley,injector,fuel pump,idler pulley,belt,& some custom tuning.With the extra,you can make your own stage 5-6 buy just getting a smaller pulley(which I can buy from another member for about 200-250) to up the boost to 10-12lbs and tune all over.Any kit is upgradable,that's not rocket science.
The new pump is a must(that may have been the fall of my motor,I ran for months not knowing it burned out).Wiring a warning light is a great idea,let me know if you do some tinkering with one.If I beat you to it I'll share.

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
I havent really looked into it very much...since im doing the install myself I like the idea of not being able to tune it...... Any fine tuning I do will be with my ECU....And only if my A/F is way off and Techno Square recommend I take some extra timing off the top..... If I got the vortec I would have to tune down the power output..... If I find instructions indicating how much wiring is involved I may reconsider and start to lean twoards the kit......I know if I get that kit the inital cost will be about 5500...and for that I would rather get a single turbo kit and modify my exhaust....

this is a very hard choice for me in particular because of my N/A mods I really should be getting a turbo kit.....My launches need no more power than I already have.... and turbo lag would probably help my 60FT... I think atleast...

in all reality the Vortec is easier.....because I would either also have to modify my hood or exhaust with my other choices.....and im very picky about my Z's looks...

Too bad Z/G owners here dont have F/I I wish I could look at some... would help my choice....

Just my opinion
If you really dont want to worry about tuneing, and some major power, go with APS TT. It can ready to you, where you only have to bolt on the TT kit. and your good to go.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cloudy
If you really dont want to worry about tuneing, and some major power, go with APS TT. It can ready to you, where you only have to bolt on the TT kit. and your good to go.
I would rather go ST not TT so im gonna wait untill the APS arrives.....

I have a bad feel for Vortec..... but thats just me no reason in particullar just how i feel..... I can save another 2,000 easy before the summer and APS will provide all I need...oil pan CAS wire and fuel return..... I really want to do the install myself...for the satisfaction.....and I will only want low boost for now.....

The Stillen kit is in my head too..... A lot of people keep saying a S/C is more reliable but after all these belt issues TC seems more consistent.....

Just impression ive been getting....
After all ive been reading these last few days I feel a Pre-tunned ST kit is the way to go..... I just hope APS comes out with that DUAL exhaust MOD and it works with an Injen.....
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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And the price is good.....

But if the Turbonetics kit is more cost effective than the APS kit I will get the Turbonetics and buy my own Oil pan, CAS and fuel return system.....although there has been some questions in my head if the stock fuel system can handle about 330WHP...
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